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Nov 3, 2014 21:41:26   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
http://creationtoday.org/creationist-challenge/

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Nov 3, 2014 22:34:23   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
Pathetic, simply pathetic. This list of questions reflects the scientific knowledge I would expect from a 6th grader, and perhaps not a very bright one at that. Go study some inorganic and organic chemistry, physics and mathematics and you will see why those questions make no sense. Then study some biology above 2nd grade level and you will see why the entire paragraph "Fossils disprove evolution" is nonsense, full of incorrect statements (I won't call them lies, since there is a possibility that the writer is actually that stupid and uninformed, and not deliberately lying).

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Nov 3, 2014 23:14:52   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
Pathetic, simply pathetic. This list of questions reflects the scientific knowledge I would expect from a 6th grader, and perhaps not a very bright one at that. Go study some inorganic and organic chemistry, physics and mathematics and you will see why those questions make no sense. Then study some biology above 2nd grade level and you will see why the entire paragraph "Fossils disprove evolution" is nonsense, full of incorrect statements (I won't call them lies, since there is a possibility that the writer is actually that stupid and uninformed, and not deliberately lying).
Pathetic, simply pathetic. This list of questions... (show quote)


You have a lot of words in there but no facts to refute what was written. Can you supply some facts that would absolutely refute anything that is in this article instead of making a lot accusations with no facts?

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Nov 3, 2014 23:58:36   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You have a lot of words in there but no facts to refute what was written. Can you supply some facts that would absolutely refute anything that is in this article instead of making a lot accusations with no facts?
why do you want facts all of a sudden, so you can call them the devil's work carried out by atheist-evolutionary creationism deniers?

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Nov 4, 2014 00:06:07   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
user47602 wrote:
why do you want facts all of a sudden, so you can call them the devil's work carried out by atheist-evolutionary creationism deniers?


All of the sudden? I have asked for facts from the opposing side for quite some time. If you want to exchange facts then that would be great, if all you want to do is argue and insult then the conversation ends. As I said a few days ago on my other posts, I will not argue anymore but I am willing to have conversation about facts. :)

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Nov 4, 2014 00:42:29   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
Racmanaz wrote:
... I will not argue anymore but I am willing to have conversation about facts. :)
article wrote:
Though evolutionists have stated that there are many transitional forms, this is simply not true. What evolutionists claim to be transitional forms all have fully functional parts. A true transitional form would have non-functioning parts or appendages, such as the nub of a leg or wing.

http://otterspoor.com/biology/review/images/evolution/vestigialstructure1.gif

What does the femur do on a whale? On humans, it is important for walking.

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Nov 4, 2014 01:27:03   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
user47602 wrote:
http://otterspoor.com/biology/review/images/evolution/vestigialstructure1.gif

What does the femur do on a whale? On humans, it is important for walking.


This has already been debunked years ago, evolutionist rarely mention this anymore. Those "femurs" are not actually femurs as evolutionist thought they were and there's absolutely no evidence of that and pure speculation. Those are two little bones that do not resemble femurs, they are used for whales to latch on to each other during mating and that has already been verified. Again, it has nothing to do with evolution as it does with mating between whales, pure speculation from evolutionists. :)

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Nov 4, 2014 02:59:41   #
user47602 Loc: ip 304.0.0.33.32
 
OMG white is black, crazy is sane...http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11113/111130781/3642177-3611702524-Bizar.jpg

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Nov 4, 2014 08:47:59   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
Racmanaz wrote:
This has already been debunked years ago, evolutionist rarely mention this anymore. Those "femurs" are not actually femurs as evolutionist thought they were and there's absolutely no evidence of that and pure speculation. Those are two little bones that do not resemble femurs, they are used for whales to latch on to each other during mating and that has already been verified. Again, it has nothing to do with evolution as it does with mating between whales, pure speculation from evolutionists. :)
This has already been debunked years ago, evolutio... (show quote)
Experience tells me that arguing this point with you is like trying to explain atomic structure to a chicken, but here goes. Whoever "debunked" the status of cetacean femurs is simply wrong. These structures develop in the whale embryo as normal hind limbs, complete with acetabula, synovial joints and all of the requisite attached muscles. They fail to complete their development, and become embedded in blubber and remain subcutaneous in most individuals. There have been several observed instances in which the structures do protrude from the body a bit, but in almost all cetaceans they remain firmly under the skin, and are of no functional consequence at all - not in reproduction, not in walking, not in swimming...nothing. Vestigal! If you want to see another example of a transitional form look in the mirror. Every species is transitional (or doomed to extinction) in some way. You have an appendix, but I don't since it was removed when I was 15 years old, to no long lasting consequences. Vestigal! Your (and my) coccyx, remnant of our tailed ancestors, remains for the time being. Vestigal!

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Nov 4, 2014 08:56:59   #
OldDoc Loc: New York
 
Racmanaz wrote:
You have a lot of words in there but no facts to refute what was written. Can you supply some facts that would absolutely refute anything that is in this article instead of making a lot accusations with no facts?

Now lets move on to some of the other claims in that piece you posted.
He says: "Why do books on evolution, including grade school, high school and college textbooks, not include such important, basic information? Evolutionists are masters of speculation; why don’t they speculate about this?" in reference to the origin of elements and chemical compounds. The answer is simple - evolution makes no claims about the origin of chemicals, atoms or the universe in general, so no textbooks, scientific publications or blogs addressing evolution need to discuss this. Incidentally, in my readings of the bible I find no mention of the Calvin cycle, weak hydrogen bonding, or any of the other zillion chemical facts...by your "reasoning", why is that?

He also says: "What are the odds that the evolutionary process, proceeding by random changes, would produce human beings, plus millions of species of animals, birds, fish and insects, all with symmetrical features, i.e., one side being a mirror image of the other? We take symmetry in all these creatures for granted, but is that a reasonable outcome for a random process?" The odds of this happening are 100% since it has happened. And just in the interests of completeness and accuracy, not all life forms are symmetrical - your own body has clearly defined left-right asymmetries, for example. Just ask your renal arteries, your heart and liver.

I could go on, but life is too short, and my bucket list grows daily.

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Nov 4, 2014 09:11:33   #
nakkh Loc: San Mateo, Ca
 
The sun is powered by a giant hamster at it's core. Can you supply some facts that would absolutely refute anything that is in this statement instead of making a lot accusations with no facts?

Racmanaz wrote:
You have a lot of words in there but no facts to refute what was written. Can you supply some facts that would absolutely refute anything that is in this article instead of making a lot accusations with no facts?

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Nov 4, 2014 10:16:06   #
RixPix Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Racmanaz wrote:
http://creationtoday.org/creationist-challenge/


Here's a fun fact about Christianity....

The religion of ancient Egypt was practiced for 4,000 years. That's before Judaism from which Christianity is derived.

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Nov 4, 2014 10:34:47   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
Hey! At least it wasn't YouTube Junk "science".
Reminds me of the old Cosby bit "Why is there air?"

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Nov 4, 2014 10:52:35   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
OldDoc wrote:
Experience tells me that arguing this point with you is like trying to explain atomic structure to a chicken, but here goes. Whoever "debunked" the status of cetacean femurs is simply wrong. These structures develop in the whale embryo as normal hind limbs, complete with acetabula, synovial joints and all of the requisite attached muscles. They fail to complete their development, and become embedded in blubber and remain subcutaneous in most individuals. There have been several observed instances in which the structures do protrude from the body a bit, but in almost all cetaceans they remain firmly under the skin, and are of no functional consequence at all - not in reproduction, not in walking, not in swimming...nothing. Vestigal! If you want to see another example of a transitional form look in the mirror. Every species is transitional (or doomed to extinction) in some way. You have an appendix, but I don't since it was removed when I was 15 years old, to no long lasting consequences. Vestigal! Your (and my) coccyx, remnant of our tailed ancestors, remains for the time being. Vestigal!
Experience tells me that arguing this point with y... (show quote)

You really need to read more before commenting on so called vestigial structures, I will show you later how you are contradicting evolution scientists study results especially the whale pelvic bones.

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Nov 4, 2014 10:53:58   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
RixPix wrote:
Here's a fun fact about Christianity....

The religion of ancient Egypt was practiced for 4,000 years. That's before Judaism from which Christianity is derived.


You are off subject again, very telling.

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