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Oct 22, 2014 11:47:40   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Seems to me that Nikon's current 600mm lens is a bit long in the tooth. Any info on when they will release a new one with the lighter lens material?

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Oct 22, 2014 11:57:23   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
I have seen overwhelmingly positive reviews for this lens, hardly anything negative about it at all. Why would Nikon be in a hurry to replace it with a new model?

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Oct 22, 2014 12:13:17   #
ReFlections Loc: From LA to AL
 
rook2c4 wrote:
I have seen overwhelmingly positive reviews for this lens, hardly anything negative about it at all. Why would Nikon be in a hurry to replace it with a new model?


B/c some of us will be in a hurry to buy it if it is reported to be lighter and better. LOL.

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Oct 22, 2014 12:44:02   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
Sharp One wrote:
B/c some of us will be in a hurry to buy it if it is reported to be lighter and better. LOL.


rook2c4 wrote:

I have seen overwhelmingly positive reviews for this lens, hardly anything negative about it at all. Why would Nikon be in a hurry to replace it with a new model?


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ONE reason for Nikon would be to meet/ beat the competition: Cannon's 600 mm lens is about 8.6 Lbs while the Nikon version is about 11.2 Lbs. That is a big difference -- Some people would rather work smarter than harder. (Nikon's current design is about 7 years old. Not that that alone makes it bad, its just that there have been improvements since.)

ONE reason why someone buying their first such lens would want to see a new version would be -- SEE ABOVE. Also, the new fluorite lens material is supposed to be optically superior and they now have better coatings. So yes, I will "hurry" and wait to buy if a new release is just down the road.

Thanks for your input gentlemen.

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Oct 23, 2014 11:13:40   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
retlaw wrote:
Seems to me that Nikon's current 600mm lens is a bit long in the tooth. Any info on when they will release a new one with the lighter lens material?


The Nikon 600mm lens may be a little long in the tooth but it is also one of the sharpest lenses that Nikon makes!

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Oct 23, 2014 11:52:29   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
RRS wrote:
The Nikon 600mm lens may be a little long in the tooth but it is also one of the sharpest lenses that Nikon makes!


I do not disagree and I am not criticizing the lens. I was just wondering if anyone heard something about a new release of the 600mm like the 400mm and 800mm lenses that use the fluorite.

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Oct 23, 2014 13:01:35   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
retlaw wrote:
I do not disagree and I am not criticizing the lens. I was just wondering if anyone heard something about a new release of the 600mm like the 400mm and 800mm lenses that use the fluorite.


I haven't heard of anything newer yet either. It's a two edged sword though, it is heavy but on the other hand it sure helps in keeping your tripod steady in a breeze! I just can't hand hold it for BIF. I understand where you are coming from. I sure wouldn't want to buy one today for what they cost only to have a new and lighter model come out in two months!

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Oct 23, 2014 14:50:22   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Just for those who may not know, Canon has been using Fluorite for about 30 years now. With Nikon, you could use the 300 2.8 W/2X to go lighter in the meantime .....

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Oct 23, 2014 16:54:05   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
imagemeister wrote:
Just for those who may not know, Canon has been using Fluorite for about 30 years now. With Nikon, you could use the 300 2.8 W/2X to go lighter in the meantime .....


I know, that's what I'm using. I saw 2 800mm f/5.6's in Yellowstone and the one gentleman told me that he uses that lens for BIF free hand, I just couldn't do that now or even 20 years ago!

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Oct 23, 2014 17:04:52   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
RRS wrote:
I know, that's what I'm using. I saw 2 800mm f/5.6's in Yellowstone and the one gentleman told me that he uses that lens for BIF free hand, I just couldn't do that now or even 20 years ago!


I have seen little old ladies with 800mm !.....?

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Oct 23, 2014 17:57:29   #
RRS Loc: Not sure
 
[quote=imagemeister]I have seen little old ladies with 800mm !.....?[/quot
That's one hell of a good way to attract an older male photographer! :) :) :)

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Oct 24, 2014 17:16:51   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
RRS wrote:
I haven't heard of anything newer yet either. It's a two edged sword though, it is heavy but on the other hand it sure helps in keeping your tripod steady in a breeze! I just can't hand hold it for BIF. I understand where you are coming from. I sure wouldn't want to buy one today for what they cost only to have a new and lighter model come out in two months!


Exactly. :thumbup:

Good point about keeping the tripod steady.

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Oct 24, 2014 17:58:53   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
retlaw wrote:
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ONE reason for Nikon would be to meet/ beat the competition: Cannon's 600 mm lens is about 8.6 Lbs while the Nikon version is about 11.2 Lbs. That is a big difference.


Retlaw it's interesting that when you refer to Canons' 600mm that you refer to it as a cannon!! :lol:
Retlaw, I've been preaching Canon gear for a while now. Forget the bodies(they ARE good), but because of the lenses alone.
Unfortunately when it comes to lenses Canon got a BIG head start on AF and IS/VR and is a complete generation ahead in the long lenses and in some cases 2 generations. Yes, an 11lb. lens is a honker!
There is a quick solution for you, but you are probably allergic to carbon fiber and titanium.
Even the lens trunk looks FAST! :lol:
Look on the bright side, if you shoot with a Nikon 600 ain't nobody gonna accuse you of not being a REAL man! :lol:
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Oct 26, 2014 15:57:11   #
retlaw Loc: Northern New Jersey
 
SharpShooter wrote:
Retlaw it's interesting that when you refer to Canons' 600mm that you refer to it as a cannon!! :lol:
Retlaw, I've been preaching Canon gear for a while now. Forget the bodies(they ARE good), but because of the lenses alone.
Unfortunately when it comes to lenses Canon got a BIG head start on AF and IS/VR and is a complete generation ahead in the long lenses and in some cases 2 generations. Yes, an 11lb. lens is a honker!
There is a quick solution for you, but you are probably allergic to carbon fiber and titanium.
Even the lens trunk looks FAST! :lol:
Look on the bright side, if you shoot with a Nikon 600 ain't nobody gonna accuse you of not being a REAL man! :lol:
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Retlaw it's interesting that when you refer to Can... (show quote)


Hey SharpShooter – Freudian slip on the cannon; I guess I am thinking about my REAL man image. And with the Nikon lens trunk, I will feel like a REAL man in a 1940’s Bogart movie. :D

In any case, I agree Canon makes great lenses -- both companies make good stuff. Its just that, after 7 years, Nikon is due for an upgrade on the 600 mm and GAS forces me to need a longer lens. That is why I wanted to check the UHH rumor mill. However, it matters no longer since I decided to risk it and ordered one -- Big Brown delivered it Friday. Happy to report, it is quite sharp and the colors are great.

Thanks to all.

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Oct 26, 2014 16:06:22   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
retlaw wrote:
Hey SharpShooter – Freudian slip on the cannon; I guess I am thinking about my REAL man image. And with the Nikon lens trunk, I will feel like a REAL man in a 1940’s Bogart movie. :D

In any case, I agree Canon makes great lenses -- both companies make good stuff. Its just that, after 7 years, Nikon is due for an upgrade on the 600 mm and GAS forces me to need a longer lens. That is why I wanted to check the UHH rumor mill. However, it matters no longer since I decided to risk it and ordered one -- Big Brown delivered it Friday. Happy to report, it is quite sharp and the colors are great. Thanks to all.
Hey SharpShooter – Freudian slip on the cannon; I ... (show quote)

Retlaw, U da MAN in my book!! :lol:
I have no doubt of the nikons sharpness. But it IS a honker.
Look on the bright side. Throw away the tripod and gimbal and in no time at all, you'll be wearing MUSCLE SHIRTS!! :lol: :lol:
Enjoy your new cannon! Whoops :mrgreen:
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