Looking for my first FX camera
Sep 14, 2014 18:19:36 #
Gene51 wrote:
Huge amount of color noise. Nice shot though.
The stars demand as fast a shot possible 15-20 sec. and high ISO. Even then I still get the star trails. The noise I induced by sharpening it.
Here it is without the noise. Not as dramatic.
Sep 14, 2014 18:22:10 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
[quote=CraigFair]
Just a question, how could you only see the shed when the sun had already risen? This was shot in morning daylight.
asiafish wrote:
I've read many similar stories and that is why I narrowed my choice to the D610 and Df. I ultimately went with the Df because of the sensor, and what a magnificent sensor it is.
Here is what a Nikon D600 sensor is capable of
Time 04:59 AM, no direct light, no flash only ambient city lighting. I could just see the shed and nothing on the far right side.
ISO 800
SS 15"
Lens 24mm
WB Auto
Here is what a Nikon D600 sensor is capable of
Time 04:59 AM, no direct light, no flash only ambient city lighting. I could just see the shed and nothing on the far right side.
ISO 800
SS 15"
Lens 24mm
WB Auto
Just a question, how could you only see the shed when the sun had already risen? This was shot in morning daylight.
Sep 14, 2014 18:25:41 #
Racmanaz wrote:
Just a question, how could you only see the shed when the sun had already risen? This was shot in morning daylight.
Sunrise:
6:44 am
Sunset:
7:10 pm
Sep 14, 2014 18:29:54 #
CraigFair wrote:
OK here's the D600 at 6400 ISO
At ISO 800 even an iPhone 5s doesn't have much noise.
Sep 14, 2014 18:31:15 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
CraigFair wrote:
Sunrise:
6:44 am
Sunset:
7:10 pm
6:44 am
Sunset:
7:10 pm
Is this not the sun or is it some sort of light? red arrows indicating light just above the wooden fence left of the shed.
Sep 14, 2014 18:31:20 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
CraigFair wrote:
Sunrise:
6:44 am
Sunset:
7:10 pm
6:44 am
Sunset:
7:10 pm
Is this not the sun or is it some sort of light? red arrows indicating light just above the wooden fence left of the shed. Maybe it's just a street light?
Sep 14, 2014 18:51:32 #
Racmanaz wrote:
Is this not the sun or is it some sort of light? red arrows indicating light just above the wooden fence left of the shed. Maybe it's just a street light?
I guess I don't have much credibility. You are looking WSW at 5 AM, almost total darkness, that is a streetlight 3 blocks away.
Sep 14, 2014 18:54:42 #
CraigFair wrote:
I guess I don't have much credibility. You are looking WSW at 5 AM, almost total darkness, that is a streetlight 3 blocks away.
Low ISO is low ISO. My point is that while D600 sensor is great at low ISO, Df/D4 sensor has a definitely advantage at high ISO. You could have taken that same shot at ISO 50 with three stops longer shutter speed and it would look the same, but if you took it at ISO 6400 it would be very noisy.
This shot was at ISO 12,800. What would an indoor portrait at ISO 12,800 look like on the D600?
Sep 14, 2014 18:58:40 #
Racmanaz
Loc: Sunny Tucson!
CraigFair wrote:
I guess I don't have much credibility. You are looking WSW at 5 AM, almost total darkness, that is a streetlight 3 blocks away.
NO you are fine Craig, I was just curious about that light and give people the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for explaining what the source of the light was. :)
Sep 14, 2014 19:05:47 #
Sep 14, 2014 19:10:38 #
Racmanaz wrote:
NO you are fine Craig, I was just curious about that light and give people the benefit of the doubt. Thanks for explaining what the source of the light was. :)
No problem Racmanaz just my dry humor.
Sep 14, 2014 19:23:31 #
CraigFair wrote:
No problem Racmanaz just my dry humor.
Craig, just noticed that B&H has the D610 on sale now for $1796 which is making it much more difficult in holding off buying one until I save a few more dollars. I love that camera body and look forward to obtaining one. It is my next step up from my D7000, which was a step up from my D50. Slowly acquiring some FX lenses, as well.
Sep 14, 2014 19:29:20 #
asiafish wrote:
Low ISO is low ISO. My point is that while D600 sensor is great at low ISO, Df/D4 sensor has a definitely advantage at high ISO. You could have taken that same shot at ISO 50 with three stops longer shutter speed and it would look the same, but if you took it at ISO 6400 it would be very noisy.
This shot was at ISO 12,800. What would an indoor portrait at ISO 12,800 look like on the D600?
This shot was at ISO 12,800. What would an indoor portrait at ISO 12,800 look like on the D600?
I believe you and very fine shots by the way. I was just showing how far a lesser camera can go with it's abilities.
I'll take the challenge, I want to see how much noise I get at high ISO's tonight. We all know noise loves to dress in black , I always push ISO as low as I can get away with. I'd like to see what happens with H1 & H2
Sep 14, 2014 20:02:55 #
CraigFair wrote:
The stars demand as fast a shot possible 15-20 sec. and high ISO. Even then I still get the star trails. The noise I induced by sharpening it.
Here it is without the noise. Not as dramatic.
Here it is without the noise. Not as dramatic.
A better approach is to denoise it first - color and luminance, THEN sharpen. 20 sec should be about right for a 14 mm lens at F2.8 on a D600, ISO 800. Shorter focal length or slower lens will need a higher ISO.
Sep 14, 2014 20:15:07 #
Gene51 wrote:
A better approach is to denoise it first - color and luminance, THEN sharpen. 20 sec should be about right for a 14 mm lens at F2.8 on a D600, ISO 800. Shorter focal length or slower lens will need a higher ISO.
Good approach I'll give it a try your way Thank you Gene, nice shot
Craig
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