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Aug 21, 2014 10:43:52   #
titco62
 
KEH is 30days and you can buy exten wary too also Cameta cameras too good used camera both of my cameras are used and 3 years warray..guess abt 59 dollars

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Aug 21, 2014 10:44:41   #
titco62
 
sorry KEH is 6month and cameta is year on used equipments

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Aug 21, 2014 10:46:05   #
alliebess Loc: suburban Philadelphia
 
handgunner wrote:
http://www.amazon.com/Digital-Camera-55-250mm-Telephoto-Accessory/dp/B00A2ATBTO/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1408560682&sr=8-3&keywords=canon+t4i+bundle


I use two Nikons for work, the D3100 and 3200 and use the 55-200 & 55-300 lenses for portraits. Been very happy with both cameras and lenses. And as people have often suggested, I went to a big box store and held several cameras to see how they felt in my hands.

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Aug 21, 2014 10:46:52   #
davidheald1942 Loc: Mars (the planet)
 
Victor S wrote:
CAN WE EVER LEARN TO SPELL THE CAMERA MAKE CORRECTLY????

CANON IS A CAMERA; CANNON IS A PIECE OF ARTILLERY



I really hope they listen to you, I just got through making a similar post on page 5. I have a Canon myself
ronny

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Aug 21, 2014 10:51:41   #
canon Lee
 
The camera body is replaceable as you become a better photographer. I would suggest a 50mm for portraits, as this is not expensive at all & a zoom lens for your landscapes. I have shot with both Canon and Nikon but have a personal liking for Canon as I have several Canon's and love them. Be aware that camera bodies are upgradeable but lenses are a one time purchase. Put your money into your lenses.

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Aug 21, 2014 11:34:16   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
handgunner wrote:
They are not full frame if that is what you want. Budget is the issue.


I was being sarcastic in a funny way about the word cannon! However Canon is a brand name like Canon cameras! And a cannon is something you fire projectile out of.?

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Aug 21, 2014 11:38:17   #
amfoto1 Loc: San Jose, Calif. USA
 
handgunner wrote:
MT I told Closer to check out the T4i. It is virtually the same and will be cheaper. I believe the person is budget minded.

One thing to consider... The T4i was discontinued over a year ago when the T5i was introduced (April 2013). They are very similar cameras, mostly with some modest video-related improvements. The T5i model immediately replaced the T4i in the Canon line-up. The T3i has continued to be offered alongside the T5i (Note: T4i and T5i both have autofocus system that's a step up from T3i, plus an articulated rear LCD monitor, among other incremental improvements and feature upgrades.)

You can probably still find brand new T4i. And it should have the same warranty. A possible future concern is if repair parts run out and Canon stops supporting the model.... which might be expected to happen a year or more sooner with T4i than with T5i. Note: emphasis on "might" and "possible"... because the two models are similar enough that they may share a lot of parts and service procedures.

Canon vs Nikon is rather silly. Both make great cameras and lenses. Both systems are capable and comprehensive and will meet the needs of beginners to serious amateurs to pros.

One place I see a difference is in factory service/repair. That's actually pretty rarely needed with today's gear, so it may never be an issue.... But starting late last year in the US, Nikon began forcing all service and repair to be done at their authorized/official service centers, by refusing to sell replacement parts to anyone else. This is their right, but has resulted in a backlog. Canon freely sells repair parts to anyone who has a telephone and a credit card, and rarely has backlogs so their repairs typically take days instead of weeks or months. This might be more of a concern after the item is out of warranty (1 year in both cases, I believe). During the warranty period you likely would want to use either company's factory/authorized service for any needed repairs. But after the warranty expires, it's nice to have the choice of using thousands of independent repairers, if you wish, or the factory service center. The competition sort of keeps the factory service center on their toes. But if you restrict sale of replacement parts to them, you eliminate that competition and have no incentive putting pressure for high level of performance on your own service centers. Again, though, the vast majority of buyers never need to have repairs done, so this may be a moot point.

Closer, I do not know the Nikon system particularly well. I shoot with Canon and know more about what they offer. If you decide to get one of the Canon models (T4i or T5i) in kit, you'll find them typically fitted with either EF-S 18-55 IS II or 18-55 IS STM lens. Factory kits are a good way to get a camera and lens at some additional discount. Either of these kit lenses are pretty good optically, but very lightly built (plasticky) and inexpensive. An upgrade would be an EF-S 18-135mm IS or 18-135mm IS STM, which also are sometimes offered in kit with the cameras.

You also can find two-lens kits that include one of the 18-55s plus either the EF-S 55-250mm IS or 55-250mm IS STM, both of which are entry level tele-zooms.

In all cases, the STM lens has superior auto focus performance and will cost about $50 more (STM stands for "Stepper Motor"... vs the standard micro motor focusing drive, which is not as smooth, slower and noisier).

You also will sometimes find two-lens kits with the EF 75-300 lens. I would avoid this lens. It's not one of Canon's better efforts. Either of the 55-250s is a better choice. Most often, the 75-300 shows up in retailer assembled (rather than Canon/factory) kits, offered at what appear to be bargain prices. Sometimes these kits are good, but be very careful. A lot of them are loaded up with cheap junk. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is!

You won't find them in kit, but two possible "standard" zoom upgrades to consider are the EF-S 17-55/2.8 IS USM and EF-S 15-85 IS USM. Either of these would add considerable cost, but are significant upgrades in a number of ways, starting with top image quality. The 17-55 has fast f2.8 non-variable aperture that can be useful in low light and to render shallower depth of field effects. The 15-85 covers an unusual range of focal lengths, significantly wider than most standard zooms... there's a noticeable difference between 15mm vs 17 or 18mm. With this lens, you might not ever feel a need to buy an even wider lens. Also both of these lenses use USM (ultrasonic motor) focus drive, which is the best for still photography... fast, accurate and reasonably quiet, smooth (STM is considered better for videography, though).

With either 17-55 or 15-85mm lens, you might also be looking at a telezoom.... 70-200mm or 70-300mm. These are considerably more expensive than the kit lenses, but Canon makes four 70-200 models and three 70-300 models. These start around $600 or $650, though. Several models are over $1000 and at least one is over $2000.

However, the lenses you put on the camera will make far more difference to your images than the camera model you choose. If at all possible, spend a bit more and upgrade lenses.

One way to save a bit is to look for factory refurbished cameras. Often these are display models or were demos at trade shows and have seen virtually no use at all, look and perform just like new. Before being offered they are typically checked by a service tech (probably more individual attention than a brand new camera gets when it comes off the assembly line). I've seen and bought refurbs at Adorama and B&H Photo in the past... Today Canon USA sells a lot of them through their online store. Usually refurbs have the same warranty as new, too.

Used gear is another possibility, to save a bit or make a budget go a little farther... KEH has been mentioned and I've bought stuff through them. Adorama, B&H have used departments that I've patronized, as well. Good folks at all three stores! These well-established, used equipment retailers usually offer at least a 90 day warranty on their stuff, and a 7 or 14 day right of return, no questions asked. They inspect the gear and rate it... usually really conservatively. If buying used, though, you need to know more about the specific item being considered... . For example, some of the earlier versions of EF-S 18-55mm lens (models without IS) are not as good optically as current versions.

IMHO, "extended warranties" are a waste of money. The vast majority of problems with gear today show up right away, within a couple weeks out of the box. If they survive 30 or 90 days, or a year in the case of new stuff, likely they will give many years reliable use.

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Aug 21, 2014 11:46:00   #
handgunner Loc: Windsor Locks, Connecticut
 
RichardSM wrote:
I was being sarcastic in a funny way about the word cannon! However Canon is a brand name like Canon cameras! And a cannon is something you fire projectile out of.?


sorry :oops: my mind ain't what it used to be .. mybad

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Aug 21, 2014 11:55:01   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Victor S wrote:
CAN WE EVER LEARN TO SPELL THE CAMERA MAKE CORRECTLY????

CANON IS A CAMERA; CANNON IS A PIECE OF ARTILLERY


so big deal , if i said to you ! I just shot my cannon at my canon . or
I just shot my canon at my cannon. if you were not into cameras , you may
not know what the hay I was talking about . I'm just saying , every one here knows what he means , where not discussing the civil war . were not at a
spelling contest , why don't you spelling valdictorens get on a site called , why do people make mistakes in spelling, or better yet why can't we perfect spellers keep our mouth shut . I think your the the type that would tell the queen on a windy day - ( my your hair is really messy ) can't you go to the
wash room and redo it .

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Aug 21, 2014 12:01:13   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
Moomoo48 wrote:
I owned a 5200 and it's a great intuitive camera, my 89 year old father has one and loves it. There is a light feel due to the plastic body but that's what you get in most moderate end cameras. Movie feature is awesome this is a great beginner camera


it's more than a beginners camera . it's a lot of people's starting and finishing
camera . and the model that is going to take it's place in about five years , will be bought by the same people .

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Aug 21, 2014 12:11:00   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
yhtomit wrote:
Whats a Canon?


you to ?

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Aug 21, 2014 12:19:50   #
atomatis Loc: chico ca.
 
closer wrote:
I've never owned a DSLR. I have a Cannon Power Shot S1-IS camera that has a lot of the features of a DSLR, just not any lens options. Trying to choose between a Nikon D5200 and a Cannon T5i. Both are close to the same price. Anyone with any ideas. Opinions are welcome


go with the d5300 much improved camera

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Aug 21, 2014 12:26:03   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
handgunner wrote:
I checked out some used stuff on Amazon ... trouble is some of the stuff only has a 30 day warranty... and the savings wern't that great.


that depends what you buy . you can get a refurbished D7000 for about half the cost of a new d5200 . and the d 7000 is stronger built , titanium shell ,
dust and water resistant . and new it was cost wise double what the d5200
cost new . il be picking up a d7100 as soon as there $600 for a clean used one with about 30000 clicks on it . or less

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Aug 21, 2014 12:33:33   #
atomatis Loc: chico ca.
 
you should look the nikon d5300 .

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Aug 21, 2014 12:48:31   #
jimmya Loc: Phoenix
 
closer wrote:
I've never owned a DSLR. I have a Cannon Power Shot S1-IS camera that has a lot of the features of a DSLR, just not any lens options. Trying to choose between a Nikon D5200 and a Cannon T5i. Both are close to the same price. Anyone with any ideas. Opinions are welcome


Being a Canon owner and loyalist let me recommend the t5i. I own a t3i and it wouldn't be a bad choice either, an excellent camera.

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