Another hit for Global Warming
Aug 11, 2014 10:50:25 #
CatMarley wrote:
Death Valley Sets New Temperature Record for Coolness
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Global warming is based on average temperatures of the earth at various periods of time, that cover thousands to hundreds of thousands of years. It cannot be based, meaningfully, on a single measurement at a single point on the global surface.
NASA Data
Aug 11, 2014 10:52:10 #
kymarto wrote:
People don't seem to understand that climate chang... (show quote)
Rush is not a scientist nor does he claim to be. He does, however, offer evidence not brought forth in the main stream media that there is plenty of fraud perpetrated on the citizenry of the world for nefarious motives previously posted here by "phcaan",
"What I disagree with is the politicizing of climate change for the purpose of political power, taxation, and more government control."
Aug 11, 2014 10:54:32 #
CatMarley wrote:
Death Valley Sets New Temperature Record for Coolness
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Al Gore, call your office. You have a problem!!
Aug 11, 2014 10:55:26 #
kymarto wrote:
"Liberal" is a label...
So is "conservative", "teapartier", so what? He merely said he is labeled by a labeler
Aug 11, 2014 10:58:34 #
ted45 wrote:
The proof is in any daily weather forecast. We cannot accurately predict what the weather will be within the next 24 hours, so how can man modify the climate to any degree. If we could, don't you think the areas where people are starving due to lack of rain would have been modified by now?
I'm probably missing your point, but frankly that makes no sense at all to me. At a gambling casino, I can't possibly predict the next roll of the dice but I can quite accurately predict that if you play at the craps table (or any other table) long enough you will run out of money. But more relevant to your comment, the fact that you can't predict the next role of the dice cannot prevent you from throwing the dice.
Weather prediction is really pretty good today compared to what it was 50 years ago but it is still far from perfect. So what? We're talking about world-wide average temperature over a year, not the weather forcast for Boise next Tuesday.
Moreover, the question of whether man's activity affects the climate is very different from the question of whether man can control the climate to cause a desired outcome. Still, people do seed clouds and even pray to the rain gods to bring on the rain.
ted45 wrote:
Yes, I understand that we are talking about taxation to modify or nullify the long term climate change. However, people have been trying to do that throughout recorded history without success. In fact, if you look at the conditions on Earth during the late 1700s and 1800s compared to now, we have done wonders in cleaning up our environment but it hasn't effected climate change in any degree.
What is your evidence for this? There is a lot of anecdotal as well as scientific evidence that climate has changed and good scientific explanations of why this change is likely do to the burning of fossil fuels. What is your evidence that man has not been the cause of these changes?
Aug 11, 2014 11:02:21 #
kymarto wrote:
"Liberal" is a label...
Or it could be an accurate description.
Aug 11, 2014 11:02:43 #
idaholover wrote:
So is "conservative", "teapartier", so what? He merely said he is labeled by a labeler
He is a labeler disparaging labelers. I always liked recursion.
Aug 11, 2014 11:04:10 #
ted45 wrote:
The proof is in any daily weather forecast. We ca... (show quote)
To the contrary, weather prediction for the next 24 hours is very accurately predicted, very much of the time and in many places on the earth, and it is getting better and better all of the time.
Aug 11, 2014 11:04:10 #
Weather is a stochastic process. One has to use statistical methods to see trends.
Aug 11, 2014 11:04:44 #
phcaan wrote:
I have never disagreed that climate change exists, it has since the beginning of time. What I disagree with is the politicizing of climate change for the purpose of political power, taxation, and more government control.
How do you feel about the fossil fuel industries politicizing climate change for the purpose of further expanding their already great wealth at the expense of human well-being and possibly even survival?
Aug 11, 2014 11:06:11 #
kymarto wrote:
People don't seem to understand that climate chang... (show quote)
I am for any sort of rational study on global warming. I don't say it doesn't exist but I am convinced it is more of a political means of control and a way to extort more money from us than a real threat. It's supporters would have us destroy the United States as a means of dealing with global warming. If they would come up with a better solutions I could get much more interested in the subject.
Aug 11, 2014 11:07:17 #
kymarto wrote:
Weather is a stochastic process. One has to use statistical methods to see trends.
A major reason for using statistical methods is to understand trends within stochastic processes.
Aug 11, 2014 11:08:36 #
When I entered college in 1965, environmental science classes at the time were predicting that we should have all frozen to death by now! Looking back on the personnel I was associating with by paying them, at that time for me, was huge sums of money I can unequivocally say they were about as far left of center as one can get! They are all now comfortably retired on huge state pensions.
Aug 11, 2014 11:08:56 #
bkellyusa wrote:
I am not sure why global warming advocates continue to believe in it since support for that argument is falling apart. Not even NASA believes in it anymore.
This is from the NASA web page.
"The current warming trend is of particular significance because most of it is very likely human-induced and proceeding at a rate that is unprecedented in the past 1,300 years."
http://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Aug 11, 2014 11:13:56 #
kymarto wrote:
He is a labeler disparaging labelers. I always liked recursion.
Disparaging liberal labelers!
Nothing wrong with labeling, it helps one in the scientific process. I took a plant taxonomy class. It was all about labeling. :thumbup:
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