Another hit for Global Warming
Aug 11, 2014 09:47:15 #
Yosemite is said to have been carved out by glaciers. If that is true then California was at one time much colder than it has been in our lifetime. That of course is a good thing since California produces enormous amounts of food due to the warm climate. Global warming has been a trend for generations and life has flourished as a result.
Why do we need weather forecasters? If the weather followed the exact same pattern day-to-day, year-to-year we would only need to look at the weather report for a given date in history to know the weather for that date in the future. But the weather is constantly changing. It warms up, it cools down and meteorologists appear on TV to tell us what to expect. Most folks call it weather but tyrants are trying to make it into something ominous for the purpose of instilling fear into the hearts of their intended victims.
Science is not united on this issue. Even global warming promoters call it 'consensus'. That is just a way of saying that the scientists who are 'living large' off government grants are willing to sell their integrity for another grant.
It is strange that meteorologists have a difficult time making completely accurate forecasts of tomorrow's weather but global warming promoters can tell us what the weather will be like 50 years from now if we don't do what they tell us to do. What do they have to lose? Who will remember - 50 years from now - that they are wrong?
Why do we need weather forecasters? If the weather followed the exact same pattern day-to-day, year-to-year we would only need to look at the weather report for a given date in history to know the weather for that date in the future. But the weather is constantly changing. It warms up, it cools down and meteorologists appear on TV to tell us what to expect. Most folks call it weather but tyrants are trying to make it into something ominous for the purpose of instilling fear into the hearts of their intended victims.
Science is not united on this issue. Even global warming promoters call it 'consensus'. That is just a way of saying that the scientists who are 'living large' off government grants are willing to sell their integrity for another grant.
It is strange that meteorologists have a difficult time making completely accurate forecasts of tomorrow's weather but global warming promoters can tell us what the weather will be like 50 years from now if we don't do what they tell us to do. What do they have to lose? Who will remember - 50 years from now - that they are wrong?
Aug 11, 2014 09:56:18 #
CatMarley wrote:
LOL If this keeps up we are in for another ice age! It has been in the 80's most of the time here in NC. It is usually Hot as H-ll here. The ice sheets are growing at the poles, the temperatures are dropping. Where is Al Gore when you really need him?
Al Gore is busy building a multi-million dollar house in California, right on the coast he said would be underwater in Ten Years, because of the melting polar ice.
Aug 11, 2014 09:58:49 #
CatMarley wrote:
LOL If this keeps up we are in for another ice age! It has been in the 80's most of the time here in NC. It is usually Hot as H-ll here. The ice sheets are growing at the poles, the temperatures are dropping. Where is Al Gore when you really need him?
"Where is Al Gore when you really need him?" Now there's a question you don't hear everyday.
Every article I've read from real scientists suggests we are overdue for another ice age. Maybe it's starting.
Aug 11, 2014 09:59:45 #
CatMarley wrote:
Death Valley Sets New Temperature Record for Coolness
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
"Residents in the El Paso area are struggling to cope with oppressive temperatures a struggle that will continue a few more days.
"We're looking at one hundred's into the weekend for sure," said Tom Bird, meteorologist at the National Weather service Office in Santa Teresa.
Temperatures were record-breaking Saturday (102 degrees), Monday (104 degrees), and Tuesday, at 109 degrees shattered last year's record by seven degrees."
http://www.elpasotimes.com/latestnews/ci_25887850/el-paso-hits-record-109-degrees-today
Aug 11, 2014 10:00:14 #
RichieC
Loc: Adirondacks
sb wrote:
It is correctly called "climate change", not "global warming". And obviously you are far, far smarter than 98% of the world's climate scientists. Congratulations.
No.. it was amended by the very same people, when the figures did not match their predictions, from "global warming" to "climate change". Don't pretend that "change" was what they always meant to say, "warming" is pretty specific- but it was failing as a tool to cash in on...
Using such supercomputers as New York Blue Gene at Stony Brook University, where most of our nations meteorologists come from, 98% of the earths weather scientists can't accurately predict if it will rain next Wednesday - but they are 100% correct that there will indeed be "weather".... Just think if they decided to call it "Weather Change" - drives their accuracy up from an educated guess to 100% correct.
Just like the partial truth of "Climate Change will happen" as it is 100% accurate. The difference is what will pay better, and what will get them funding for research better, or in Al Gores case- what will get better speaking fees and his investments in green technologies to pay out better.
I believe them when they remove their hand from my pocket.
Aug 11, 2014 10:04:37 #
I am not sure why global warming advocates continue to believe in it since support for that argument is falling apart. Not even NASA believes in it anymore.
The other thing that worries me is some sort of nuclear war is much more eminent than global warming but liberals refuse to be concerned about that and often resist the U.S. or anyone else for that matter trying to do anything about it. You'd think that anyone concerned about the planet would be near hysteria about all of the nuclear weapons there are around the planet and many of them in the hands of crazy people but not much resistance from the liberals. In fact, anytime there is talk of you getting serious about Iran the left will jump up and argue what we have no right to interfere in the internal affairs of another sovereign state. Apparently to them the psychopathic empire known as Iran is a real beacon of civilization and worthy of protection.
Anyhow, I saw this article this morning while I was looking for NASA's current opinion about global warming. It's very interesting. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/
The other thing that worries me is some sort of nuclear war is much more eminent than global warming but liberals refuse to be concerned about that and often resist the U.S. or anyone else for that matter trying to do anything about it. You'd think that anyone concerned about the planet would be near hysteria about all of the nuclear weapons there are around the planet and many of them in the hands of crazy people but not much resistance from the liberals. In fact, anytime there is talk of you getting serious about Iran the left will jump up and argue what we have no right to interfere in the internal affairs of another sovereign state. Apparently to them the psychopathic empire known as Iran is a real beacon of civilization and worthy of protection.
Anyhow, I saw this article this morning while I was looking for NASA's current opinion about global warming. It's very interesting. http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterferrara/2013/05/26/to-the-horror-of-global-warming-alarmists-global-cooling-is-here/
Aug 11, 2014 10:08:53 #
madshad wrote:
climate is not controlled by humans to any significant extent !
And what exactly is the evidence for that? Please, provide some evidence or at least some rational for making this statement.
The consensus of climate scientists (real ones, not just those playing at being climate experts on TV) is that climate is in fact influenced by the amount of greenhouse gases (mostly CO2) in the atmosphere. The level of CO2 has been increasing since the industrial revolution at an exponential rate and it is now around 400 ppm (see http://climate.nasa.gov/400ppmquotes/. Before the industrial revolution it had been around 280 ppm. for hundreds of thousands of years. There may have been blips above 280ppm due to massive fires or to volcano eruptions, but the trend was pretty steady, but now the trend is upward with no indications of it leveling off.
If you do just a little reading on the subject you will find that the evidence is quite strong that human activity is in fact influencing climate. We are allowing these changes to continue and that is extremely risky behavior.
Aug 11, 2014 10:10:20 #
Gore and his fellow investors and friends made a fortune off of the global warming scare. Now that their bank accounts are filled with taxpayer money you no longer hear from them. Take it from someone from Gore's home state when we tell you that Gore is a mega corrupt slime-ball. He lost his presidential election because he couldn't carry Tennessee. Around here we know him to well. We loved his father but we know full well that Al is a scumbag.
Aug 11, 2014 10:15:34 #
Michael Hartley wrote:
Can't wait to see them patting themselves on the back, for the lack of hurricanes this year. Obviously the carbon taxes, windmills, and electric cars are working.
Nope.....Obama gave less speeches.
Aug 11, 2014 10:18:15 #
cameraniac
Loc: Huntingburg, Indiana
pecohen wrote:
And what exactly is the evidence for that? Please... (show quote)
These days, there are far fewer trees and plants to absorb co2.
Aug 11, 2014 10:20:41 #
CatMarley wrote:
Death Valley Sets New Temperature Record for Coolness
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
Death Valley, Calif., which holds the world record for the highest temperature ever recorded, hit a high of just 89 degrees on Sunday, Aug. 3 the coolest high temperature on record for the date since temperature records have been kept since 1911.
Climate Depot linked to an article in The Washington Post disclosing that the Death Valley temperature was 15 degrees lower than the previous record of 104 degrees set in 1945.
My parents took the family camping there.I think this is good news for everybody.
Aug 11, 2014 10:38:26 #
pecohen wrote:
And what exactly is the evidence for that? Please... (show quote)
The proof is in any daily weather forecast. We cannot accurately predict what the weather will be within the next 24 hours, so how can man modify the climate to any degree. If we could, don't you think the areas where people are starving due to lack of rain would have been modified by now?
Yes, I understand that we are talking about taxation to modify or nullify the long term climate change. However, people have been trying to do that throughout recorded history without success. In fact, if you look at the conditions on Earth during the late 1700s and 1800s compared to now, we have done wonders in cleaning up our environment but it hasn't effected climate change in any degree.
Aug 11, 2014 10:40:50 #
People don't seem to understand that climate change does not necessarily mean "warming" globally, but rather more extreme weather events. Climate change obviously was happening even before God created humans four thousand and whatever years ago, but it does not follow from that that anthropogenic climate effects are not possible. That's a bit like saying that humans can't cause forest fires because there were forest fires before matches were invented.
I can understand conservatives feeling comfortable about denying the possibility of anthropogenic climate change when brought up by the mentally deficient libtards and their lapdog scientists, but when US military planners start recommending major revision to US strategic planning based on the coming disruption of the worldwide social structure due to climate change effects and the RAND Corporation predicts that climate change will, in the future, pose a much greater threat to the United States than international terrorism, one thinks that they might just turn down Rush a little and do some independent evaluation of the reasons for those concerns.
I can understand conservatives feeling comfortable about denying the possibility of anthropogenic climate change when brought up by the mentally deficient libtards and their lapdog scientists, but when US military planners start recommending major revision to US strategic planning based on the coming disruption of the worldwide social structure due to climate change effects and the RAND Corporation predicts that climate change will, in the future, pose a much greater threat to the United States than international terrorism, one thinks that they might just turn down Rush a little and do some independent evaluation of the reasons for those concerns.
Aug 11, 2014 10:42:52 #
phcaan wrote:
I have never disagreed that climate change exists, it has since the beginning of time. What I disagree with is the politicizing of climate change for the purpose of political power, taxation, and more government control.
Because I disagree with those who would posture this natural occurrence in a way to profit both monetarily and politically I am labeled a "climate denier", The liberals love their labels.
Because I disagree with those who would posture this natural occurrence in a way to profit both monetarily and politically I am labeled a "climate denier", The liberals love their labels.
:thumbup:
Aug 11, 2014 10:49:53 #
phcaan wrote:
I have never disagreed that climate change exists, it has since the beginning of time. What I disagree with is the politicizing of climate change for the purpose of political power, taxation, and more government control.
Because I disagree with those who would posture this natural occurrence in a way to profit both monetarily and politically I am labeled a "climate denier", The liberals love their labels.
Because I disagree with those who would posture this natural occurrence in a way to profit both monetarily and politically I am labeled a "climate denier", The liberals love their labels.
"Liberal" is a label...
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