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Jul 22, 2014 12:43:41   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
Some people have class and some post on UHH......... :roll: :thumbup:

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Jul 22, 2014 18:17:25   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
bodacious wrote:
A communist, well lets see, a person who believes in a system of social organization in which all economic and social activity is controlled by a totalitarian state dominated by a single and self-perpetuating political party. Now a dictator as obama wishes to be is very similar but when one person directs and controls all aspects of a state or nation and it's people. Either one is great for a person unable or unwilling to take responsibility for their lives and would rather allow a government of elitist to make decisions for them on their behalf. Works great until the elitists decide they have no more need of your services or ideologies as millions of dead communist, socialist, marxist, have found out. Liberals or liberal thinking people and liberalism is just a minor version, or the beginning version of the above and eventually will succumb to said outcome.

I believe the question put to you was are you a communist? or I will add a liberal socialist leaning individual or a constitutional free society leaning individual?

I will thank you in advance for your reply.
A communist, well lets see, a person who believes ... (show quote)


And may I add, not that it needs it, the path to full blown communisms is like this, leftist-democrat-socialist-communist.

The demorats call it a democracy just like the USSR and Cuba and N. Korea.

They still deny that leftist-socialist-democrat-communist is one word, albeit a hyphenated word.
Need proof? I typed it just like this and the spell checker did not try to change it.


Will they ever learn?

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Jul 22, 2014 18:40:41   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
Jackinthebox wrote:
And may I add, not that it needs it, the path to full blown communisms is like this, leftist-democrat-socialist-communist.

The demorats call it a democracy just like the USSR and Cuba and N. Korea.

They still deny that leftist-socialist-democrat-communist is one word, albeit a hyphenated word.
Need proof? I typed it just like this and the spell checker did not try to change it.


Will they ever learn?


In a short sentence, NO they can't learn.
Please also pay attention to Common Core, not only will the left not learn they will make sure the future generation does not learn either. At least not learn the truth, just the communist way to their so called truths.

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Jul 22, 2014 23:12:51   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
It's absolutely amazing that liberals have managed to turn things around to make it look like the Republicans were somehow responsible for racism in the South when nothing could be further form the truth. It was the Democrats that The ability to rewrite history in the minds of the unsuspecting public is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Parties control of the media and/or for that matter our education system.

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Jul 22, 2014 23:18:54   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
wlgoode wrote:
Please tell me what you think is communist. Also what polls are you talking about?

You also posted a reply to me that you are not really a conservative. Why must you call the other side nasty names? Conservatives are so juvenile. It is no wonder why Psychology Today published the study that Progressives were up to 12 Pts. higher in IQ than Conservatives.

It is proven in juvenile posts here every single day. Grow up or join a children's forum.

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Jul 22, 2014 23:24:29   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
I saw another poll done years ago by UCLA that favored Christians over non=Christians and atheists in every important category. Such as intelligence, mental illness, criminal convictions, divorce rate and on and on and on. That's UCLA too. Hardly the center of conservative thought. On the other hand Psychology Today is itself and it's readership entirely liberal.

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Jul 22, 2014 23:25:34   #
bcheary Loc: Jacksonville, FL
 
bkellyusa wrote:
It's absolutely amazing that liberals have managed to turn things around to make it look like the Republicans were somehow responsible for racism in the South when nothing could be further form the truth. It was the Democrats that The ability to rewrite history in the minds of the unsuspecting public is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Parties control of the media and/or for that matter our education system.


And that is the way libertards are. :shock: And their "Chosen One" is a prime example. :mrgreen: :XD:

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Jul 22, 2014 23:28:11   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Where do you get this stuff?

wlgoode wrote:
I wonder why history shows our free enterprise economy does better under a Democratic POTUS. Republican do much better at tanking a good free enterprise economy. Not my opinion, look at history.

I wonder why radical liberals founded our free enterprise nation and the conservative Tories liked it just fine under a dictatorial King? Again, look at history.

BTW, I have never been a Democrat and I voted for Reagan and Bush 41.

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Jul 22, 2014 23:40:22   #
bkellyusa Loc: Nashville, TN
 
Reagan was likeable but his policies screwed us blue.[/quote]

This part is a joke right. The last time we were truly successful without the internet stock boom which was an empty dream was when Reagun was president. Prior to his election all of the "experts" said he couldn't pull our economy out of the tailspin it had been in for years under Carter. Reagan turned it around in 6 months. I didn't even vote for him but in six months I, most other people, thought he was the greatest president in my lifetime. It's still that way. There is actually no rational way to argue that the Trickle Down concept won't work. Rich people buy things and invest in things and there is no way to stop that outside of Draconian tax laws.

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Jul 23, 2014 00:08:32   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
bkellyusa wrote:
It's absolutely amazing that liberals have managed to turn things around to make it look like the Republicans were somehow responsible for racism in the South when nothing could be further form the truth. It was the Democrats that The ability to rewrite history in the minds of the unsuspecting public is exactly what is wrong with the Democratic Parties control of the media and/or for that matter our education system.


Not much point in listening to a liberals definition of history. Left is right and up is down, frequently they reverse the true facts and to them this is OK, or they actually believe the crap they say. You know if they tell a lie long enough they start believing it themselves.

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Jul 23, 2014 00:28:50   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
bkellyusa wrote:
Reagan was likeable but his policies screwed us blue.


This part is a joke right. The last time we were truly successful without the internet stock boom which was an empty dream was when Reagun was president. Prior to his election all of the "experts" said he couldn't pull our economy out of the tailspin it had been in for years under Carter. Reagan turned it around in 6 months. I didn't even vote for him but in six months I, most other people, thought he was the greatest president in my lifetime. It's still that way. There is actually no rational way to argue that the Trickle Down concept won't work. Rich people buy things and invest in things and there is no way to stop that outside of Draconian tax laws.[/quote]



Reagan with feared by our enemies. Gorbachev went crying to the iron lady. Please help me I am scared that Reagan is going to destroy the USSR.
That he did and they all liked it including Gorby.
The liberal left is now more communist than Russia. They learn it and teach it in school. Go figure.

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Jul 23, 2014 00:56:02   #
bodacious Loc: Oregon
 
Jackinthebox wrote:
Reagan with feared by our enemies. Gorbachev went crying to the iron lady. Please help me I am scared that Reagan is going to destroy the USSR.
That he did and they all liked it including Gorby.
The liberal left is now more communist than Russia. They learn it and teach it in school. Go figure.


The liberal/communist left know all the truths of history, Christianity, chemistry, war and anything having to do with mankind. Just ask any one of them they will be happy to inform us of this fact. The sooner we conservatives figure this out the better off the liberals will be. At least in their small minds. We will change their misguided outlook in 2014 and 2016 after the elections when the libs run for cover once again.

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Jul 23, 2014 13:02:38   #
TrainNut Loc: Ridin' the rails
 
As long as we are rewriting history do you know that the south won the civil war? :roll: :thumbup:

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Jul 23, 2014 15:43:11   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
bkellyusa wrote:
This part is a joke right. The last time we were truly successful without the internet stock boom which was an empty dream was when Reagun was president. Prior to his election all of the "experts" said he couldn't pull our economy out of the tailspin it had been in for years under Carter. Reagan turned it around in 6 months. I didn't even vote for him but in six months I, most other people, thought he was the greatest president in my lifetime. It's still that way. There is actually no rational way to argue that the Trickle Down concept won't work. Rich people buy things and invest in things and there is no way to stop that outside of Draconian tax laws.
This part is a joke right. The last time we were ... (show quote)


Wrong on pretty much everything there.

- The prosperity of the Clinton administration was well underway long before the internet boom. He was the only president since Johnson to make it through his term recession-free.

- No one doubted the economy would continue to improve under Reagan, as the recession of 1980 had ended 6 months before. The economy was never in a "tailspin" under Carter -- The Dow actually did quite well -- The OPEC oil embargo threw the economy into a spell for a bit, but it had recovered.

- You completely forgot about the recession of 1981-82.

- What the economics experts really WERE saying was the Reagan economic plan during the high-flying mid 80s was "a textbook case on how to CAUSE a recession" -- which was exactly what it did do -- You'll recall the day in 1987 when the Dow lost 25% in one day -- erasing nearly all the gains under Reagan.

-The equivalent of the "internet boom" that happened during Reagan's time was the women's movement --- at the start of his term, most women were housewives; by the end, most were working outside the home. This led to essentially a "fire sale" on workers, and labor costs (salaries) dropped -- hence the boom. That's also why in the 70's family could get by on one income, but by the 90's, most needed two.

-There is no rational way to argue the tickle-down WILL work. It requires rich people hiring workers they have no business need for, out of charity. It just won't happen. (You also show how little you understand about economics -- your "rational" explaination of Supply-side economics, is actually describing Demand-side economics -- except you are limiting it to a tiny percentage of the population. Use the same explaination, but with everyone in the country buying things, and you get a much better economy)

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Jul 23, 2014 16:27:56   #
wlgoode Loc: Globe, AZ
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Wrong on pretty much everything there.

- The prosperity of the Clinton administration was well underway long before the internet boom. He was the only president since Johnson to make it through his term recession-free.

- No one doubted the economy would continue to improve under Reagan, as the recession of 1980 had ended 6 months before. The economy was never in a "tailspin" under Carter -- The Dow actually did quite well -- The OPEC oil embargo threw the economy into a spell for a bit, but it had recovered.

- You completely forgot about the recession of 1981-82.

- What the economics experts really WERE saying was the Reagan economic plan during the high-flying mid 80s was "a textbook case on how to CAUSE a recession" -- which was exactly what it did do -- You'll recall the day in 1987 when the Dow lost 25% in one day -- erasing nearly all the gains under Reagan.

-The equivalent of the "internet boom" that happened during Reagan's time was the women's movement --- at the start of his term, most women were housewives; by the end, most were working outside the home. This led to essentially a "fire sale" on workers, and labor costs (salaries) dropped -- hence the boom. That's also why in the 70's family could get by on one income, but by the 90's, most needed two.

-There is no rational way to argue the tickle-down WILL work. It requires rich people hiring workers they have no business need for, out of charity. It just won't happen. (You also show how little you understand about economics -- your "rational" explaination of Supply-side economics, is actually describing Demand-side economics -- except you are limiting it to a tiny percentage of the population. Use the same explaination, but with everyone in the country buying things, and you get a much better economy)
Wrong on pretty much everything there. br br - Th... (show quote)


As if a billionaire founded GM and the other big corps. NO! Big corps like that started as garage shops like Apple did. " Bob and Mary Everybody " bought the products, causing the industry to grow. When a car is sold to someone like "Bob and Mary Everybody" the money goes to the car dealer, he pays his employees, orders more cars. The car manufacture fills the orders by buying parts, machines, paint, tires, upholstery and other stuff. All of the employees get a paycheck from all of those suppliers because there are millions of "Bob and Mary Everybodys" buying cars. Those thousands of workers at the car plant and the parts plants repeat the actions, they are like "Bob and Mary Everybody." This is known as the "Multiplier Effect." Those thousands of families are what drives the economy. The GM boss did not just snap his fingers and billions of dollars appeared along with dozens of factories. He started small and the common American grew his business. That's why a high schooler could explain it to you, it's really quite simple.

Reagan's Trickle Down proved it. All the money has trickled up! The Billionaires buy stocks and send it offshore to avoid taxes. It is not reinvested in the economy, by and large. Reagan specifically said he wanted asset based income, not earned income. It was all about the 1% and not about growing the economy. If Supply Side is so good, why aren't the Universities teaching it? They teach free enterprise Keynesian economy because that's how a free enterprise works.

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