Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York

This is why the open source movement is growing so quickly. Stellar software includes Android OS for phones, Linux, Python, Perl... None of this helps with digital photography. The leading alternative is GIMP, but sadly, it is not yet ready for prime time. If folks were to spend just an hour or so a week helping in the effort, GIMP could become an awesome product.

Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York

Well,I thought you were p*ssed *ff as well.

As for seeing him in 8 years, a span of time based on the notion that the same amount of money will have been spend. You haven't taken into account the amount of software that dies a horrible death when the next version of the OS comes out.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

I know I have high hopes for open source but it always seems to stop just a bit short. Hopefully soon

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

8-) 8-) 8-) :thumbup: :thumbup:

Michael66 Loc: Queens, New York

Have you or do you help with that cause? :idea:

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

Also you guy's are all relying on Adobe to stay at the same price, look at software's history they offer allow price either to reel you in then jack it up at the most inopportune moment or they cannot get enough folks to buy into it so the cost is lowered, then when they have sold enough out comes a new so-called better version (think Micro-Soft) and charge more and abandon the one you bought ie; Adobe CC, if or when that happens I will be glad to tell you I told you so. Sorry but a couple of you have pi^^^d me off.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

I did use and test quite a few Linux versions and am in the process of building a new Linux machine don't know which one I will use yet probably will duel or triple boot a couple different ones to see what I like. They sure have come a long way.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Actually as mentioned the subscription model for software is nothing new in the computer world. Adobe has had it for a long time and insured that folks who had it were always up to date. The starting cost and subscription went down over time, not up, defeating most argumentation of being 'hostages' and 'dependent' on Adobe's greed.

I did not take into account the OS and hardware changes because that is irrelevant to the discussion. It does not matter in this case as per the subscription the software offered will evolve in time. My jib about 'seeing you in 8 years' implies that I likely will not so, what do I care?

You seem not to aware that the subscription is not OS dependent but seat dependent. Maximal install is two for a normal subscription. Two but only one computer in use at anyone time.

Speaking of 'seat' THAT is a $$$ rip off more than anything else when you look at Oracle (not to name that company of course) that has a horrendous way of 'selling' their software.

Also love the MS hatred born out of nothing. That company makes more $$$ out of their office suite licensing than their OS. That same company offers free tools that are incredible but you have to know where to find them as they are the product of individual programmers that may or may not lose interest after a time (under the been there-done that).

All the gripes I see on line are more about disinformation than real issues. That goes for everything. That is mainly BS and nothing else.

To go back to Adobe, too much misinformation is being diffused by supposedly 'friends of the end users'. Stick by what you use, what you know as being an user is the only counseling I can give to anyone. YOUR REAL experience is way more relevant than the 'what if' and 'I have been told'.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

wow never looked at any of those sites but they sure are taking bit alot further than on my post, Tho some of the post are sort of what I am saying about I do not like CC and will never use it but I do not see any harm in anyone else using it if that is what they want I have no idea except that a couple of the others are just copying what the Catain said about giving misinformation which he was wrong I am not, but many here do not have their own voice they wish ti copy and imitate someone else which makes them way more wrong than the original.

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

who the heck are you talking to and what is this seat you write about?.

Rongnongno Loc: FL

Seats is computer jargon for the number of users using a piece of software concurrently.

In the case of Oracle - again - you can install the software on as many computers as you want. The number of computers using the software concurrently (logged on users actually using the DBase) determines the cost of using the software.

Each computer is then counted as a 'seat'. Meaning that if one ass in your company does not log off as he should, you pay for it...

Novell (Defunct network software provider) started this then Oracle took over and now many large software companies (including your hated MS) are doing the same.

In the case of 'normal software' you are allowed only one 'seat' even if you can install in two computers (sometimes more).

terry44 Loc: Tuolumne County California, Maui Hawaii

did not know that, thsnks