tschmath wrote:
I went to a restaurant the other day that did this and told the manager he was cheating his employees. The tips listed were calculated on the amount of the check before the tax was added. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never heard of anyone tipping on the pre-tax amount. In my case the server was shorted less than a dollar, but over the course of a shift or a pay period that can add up to some serious change. The manager agreed with me and promised to alert corporate to the problem. We'll see next time if it gets fixed.
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While my wife and I always tip 20%, we never tip on the tax. The tax has nothing to do with service. I find it interesting that a number of years ago the usual and customary tip was 15%. Then it went to 20% using inflation as logic. However, the price of meals went up which means the 15% produced more revenue than before. I suspect the "usual & customary" tip will rise to 25% before long. If and when it does, our eating at restaurants will be greatly curtailed.
jerryc41 wrote:
This is a good idea. At the bottom of their check, Olive Garden shows what the tip would be for 15%, 18%, and 20%.
No more trying to find that app, fumbling for the calculator, or scribbling math on a napkin.
Just remember that it is a frozen food joint with salads that come from bags.
Maybe bending the topic a bit but here's a message that was on the top of a restaurant menu where I recently had dinner:
"Before you partake of dinner, remember Our Creator who provides us with our Blessings".
jerryc41 wrote:
I take the easy way out. I double the total and round up so it's an ever dollar amount.
That will result in a tip of more than 100%!!!
Is that the EASY way out?
Sourdoough58, I think whatManglesphoto means when you move the decimal point one space to the left it would make a $50.00 bill a $5.00 tip at 10% or if you double it would be $10.00.
Unclewiggley wrote:
Sourdoough58, I think whatManglesphoto means when you move the decimal point one space to the left it would make a $50.00 bill a $5.00 tip at 10% or if you double it would be $10.00.
Who are you responding to and who are you quoting???
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Many years ago when people tipped with cash, I saw a group of about 7 or 8 business men ready to leave the restaurant after leaving tips by their empty plates. One man let the others pass him so that he was the last to leave. He then quickly swiped his tip off the table and left.
jerryc41 wrote:
No more trying to find that app, fumbling for the calculator, or scribbling math on a napkin.
Yeah, this is the real reason the country is going to hell.... People seem to think to math in your head is some form of mystic power.....
Start by finding 10% of the bill. That's easy, just drop the last digit.
20% - Take the 10% value and double it. Done.
15% - Take the 10% value and cut it in half (giving 5%). Add the 5% + 10% values.
18% - Take the 10% value, double it, then take 10% of THAT (giving 2%). Subtract the 2% value from the 20% value.
e.g. bill is $54.85
10% = 5.48.
15% = 5.48 + 2.74 = 8.22. (the 2.74 can be determined as half of $5 is 2.50, and half of .48 is .24 and 2.50 + .24 = 2.74)
20% = 5.48 + 5.48 = 5.50 * 2 - .04 = 11.00 -.04 = 10.96
18% = 10.96 - 1.09 = 9.87
tschmath wrote:
I went to a restaurant the other day that did this and told the manager he was cheating his employees. The tips listed were calculated on the amount of the check before the tax was added. I don't know about anyone else, but I've never heard of anyone tipping on the pre-tax amount. In my case the server was shorted less than a dollar, but over the course of a shift or a pay period that can add up to some serious change. The manager agreed with me and promised to alert corporate to the problem. We'll see next time if it gets fixed.
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Why in the world would you tip on the State Tax?? How in the world does the tax improve either the quality of the food or the efficiency and pleasantness of the service??
First off I want to say working for T.I.P.S. instead of wages is one thing I never did. I worked for wages at many occupations. At some of them I was paid more than the fellow working with me as I was to quote "A better worker".
It bothers me a great deal to go to a restaurant - and be expected to pay the employees salary instead of the employer paying it. - TIPS is a gratitude to the employee for their service from the time you sit down till you leave - not for the total on the bill.
sourdough58 wrote:
If I understand you, your saying if your bill is $50.00 you give a $50.00 tip ? I will give a 20% tip and round up. but you are giving 100% tip kudos to you.
Hey, what can I tell you? I'm a generous guy.
sourdough58 wrote:
If I understand you, your saying if your bill is $50.00 you give a $50.00 tip ? I will give a 20% tip and round up. but you are giving 100% tip kudos to you.
You didn't read properly or understand move the decimal point one digit to the left $50.00 D/P moved = $5.00X2 = $10.00 or 20%
and on small orders I tip a flat $5.00
JamesCurran wrote:
Yeah, this is the real reason the country is going to hell.... People seem to think to math in your head is some form of mystic power.....
Start by finding 10% of the bill. That's easy, just drop the last digit.
20% - Take the 10% value and double it. Done.
15% - Take the 10% value and cut it in half (giving 5%). Add the 5% + 10% values.
18% - Take the 10% value, double it, then take 10% of THAT (giving 2%). Subtract the 2% value from the 20% value.
e.g. bill is $54.85
10% = 5.48.
15% = 5.48 + 2.74 = 8.22. (the 2.74 can be determined as half of $5 is 2.50, and half of .48 is .24 and 2.50 + .24 = 2.74)
20% = 5.48 + 5.48 = 5.50 * 2 - .04 = 11.00 -.04 = 10.96
18% = 10.96 - 1.09 = 9.87
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A slight mistake in your 18% calculation. You should have subtracted 2 percent, not 1 percent. The calculation should have read
10.96 - 2(1.09) =10.96 - 2.18 = 8.78
jerryc41 wrote:
Hey, what can I tell you? I'm a generous guy.
Never admit a mistake? Or are you really this dumb to give over 100% in a tip?
tschmath wrote:
A slight mistake in your 18% calculation. You should have subtracted 2 percent, not 1 percent. The calculation should have read
10.96 - 2(1.09) =10.96 - 2.18 = 8.78
Actually, he was correct. One percent of $54.85 is 54.8 cents. Doubled and rounded off is $1.09 (or $1.10 if you round up). You calculation would be a 16% tip
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