$10,000 Fine for Drone Operator?
May 4, 2014 04:22:25 #
The modern tendency to want to outlaw everything these days is nauseating.
How does a remote control helicopter that's called a "drone" differ from any other remote control airplane like the ones that have been flown for decades?
How is a photo taken from a toy "drone" violating one's privacy any MORE than a news chopper with a powerful telephoto lens equipped pod camera or cell phone cameras or surveillance cameras on the streets, in ceilings everywhere or in elevators?
Odd how people who have NO problem photographing people on the street using a telephoto lens or cell phones, WITHOUT permission, cry "invasion of privacy" if someone else does the same from 100 feet in the air.
Better lock up all the Estes toy rockets too before the feds come.
BY THE WAY,though perhaps there should be, THERE IS NO "right to privacy" in The Constitution. The Fourth Amendment guarantees your right to privacy ONLY from GOVERNMENT intrusion, NOT observation by private citizens.
No, I do NOT own a "drone". I'm just disgusted by our "FREE" citizens being buried in COUNTLESS laws to control us and the federal government SPITTING on the 9th and 10th amendments in The Bill of Rights.
Next thing you know the federal government will be MANDATING that we all carry expensive medical insurance every day for the rest of our lives.
How does a remote control helicopter that's called a "drone" differ from any other remote control airplane like the ones that have been flown for decades?
How is a photo taken from a toy "drone" violating one's privacy any MORE than a news chopper with a powerful telephoto lens equipped pod camera or cell phone cameras or surveillance cameras on the streets, in ceilings everywhere or in elevators?
Odd how people who have NO problem photographing people on the street using a telephoto lens or cell phones, WITHOUT permission, cry "invasion of privacy" if someone else does the same from 100 feet in the air.
Better lock up all the Estes toy rockets too before the feds come.
BY THE WAY,though perhaps there should be, THERE IS NO "right to privacy" in The Constitution. The Fourth Amendment guarantees your right to privacy ONLY from GOVERNMENT intrusion, NOT observation by private citizens.
No, I do NOT own a "drone". I'm just disgusted by our "FREE" citizens being buried in COUNTLESS laws to control us and the federal government SPITTING on the 9th and 10th amendments in The Bill of Rights.
Next thing you know the federal government will be MANDATING that we all carry expensive medical insurance every day for the rest of our lives.
May 4, 2014 04:29:40 #
jerryc41 wrote:
A drone operator who got footage of tornado damage in Arkansas might be fined $10,000 by the FAA. Several operators could also be fined if the FAA decides to go ahead with this. Freedom of the press comes into play here, and the laws are vague. News like this is going to hurt the drone industry.
Pretty soon we'll need federal government permission to fly a kite.
May 4, 2014 04:58:55 #
I was recently visiting Hilton Head Sc. There was a guy operating a drone on the beach taking pictures of the beachfront for a local real estate company who will be promoting the area via drones video. The drone pilot was charging the company $500 for the 20 minute video :-) Nice chunk of change. I think it will be an amazing tool in the right hands and like the internet could present problems.
May 4, 2014 05:44:53 #
brucewells wrote:
Jerry, I think it has much more to do with what's in the air over our head. Since 911, the FAA has been extremely sensitive to that. The government wants the air to be clear for their drones. :-/
Yeah, Only the president is allowed to fly his 'ONE' jet with fighters over NYC shortly after 9/11 to freighten the heel out of people 'just' for a photo shoot. Everyone else is expected to follow the law. Or unwritten law. They make this shit up as they feel necessary.
May 4, 2014 05:46:52 #
KotaKrome wrote:
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May 4, 2014 05:51:03 #
I pray they stop these things. There will be nothing but trouble and people who want to be left alone will be forced to endure the noise and invasion of privacy. I for one hate them. In all applications.
May 4, 2014 05:52:43 #
May 4, 2014 06:13:46 #
FAA has already fined Raphael Pirker, the drone operator, but when it was tested in federal court the judge ruled that the FAA did not have any rules governing such aircraft, so is seems that the first test case was a failure for the FAA, which is appealing the ruling.
The FAA advises that such aircraft is recreational, and as such should only be used in non-commercial applications and not in populated areas. But they do not have legal enforcement capability, nor do they have the manpower.
On the other hand, crashing a drone into a person, a home or aircraft can have very serious consequences. Without a doubt there will be all sorts of idiots buying these things and flying them all around the place and people will get hurt.
If you are using these for commercial purposes and yours is big enough to cause damage or injury on impact, you should be required to pass training standards and have a license and insurance. That just makes sense.
The FAA advises that such aircraft is recreational, and as such should only be used in non-commercial applications and not in populated areas. But they do not have legal enforcement capability, nor do they have the manpower.
On the other hand, crashing a drone into a person, a home or aircraft can have very serious consequences. Without a doubt there will be all sorts of idiots buying these things and flying them all around the place and people will get hurt.
If you are using these for commercial purposes and yours is big enough to cause damage or injury on impact, you should be required to pass training standards and have a license and insurance. That just makes sense.
May 4, 2014 06:20:21 #
"A look at decisions in subsurface ownership disputes reveals that the courts tend to side with the surface property owner if the case involves the near subsurface (disputes about tree roots or other intrusions within 100 feet or so of the surface)"
You may find yourself involved in a lawsuit and lose if you damage or destroy someone's property. You don't own the sky.
You may find yourself involved in a lawsuit and lose if you damage or destroy someone's property. You don't own the sky.
May 4, 2014 06:28:26 #
johnst1001a
Loc: West Chester, Ohio
I happened to live in the epicenter of Super Storm Sandy. After the hurricane, the National Guard (maybe the Coast Guard) flew drones with cameras to see where people needed rescue. The drones provided an invaluable first line of vision to the disaster areas, flying at low altitudes. Yes, could have done this with helicopters, but there are only so many of them to go around.
As for the media, well, is it really any different than a camera person standing on a street, or for that matter a person taking a picture from their cell phones and sending the pictures to You Tube.
People are getting really worked up over everything nowadays.
As for the media, well, is it really any different than a camera person standing on a street, or for that matter a person taking a picture from their cell phones and sending the pictures to You Tube.
People are getting really worked up over everything nowadays.
May 4, 2014 06:51:27 #
DaveHam
Loc: Reading UK
Wow! Paranoia in some of these posts. Someone flying a drone over my house! I'll blaze away at it... so logically you would also ban private aircraft, commercial aircraft, model aircraft, satellites, just about everything that anyone could peek at you with? How about my child's model helicopter? Cameras on birds for research?
What have you got to hide?
Commercial drone users require a license to operate in most of the civilized world. Enforce the licenses if the drones are not being properly used.
What have you got to hide?
Commercial drone users require a license to operate in most of the civilized world. Enforce the licenses if the drones are not being properly used.
May 4, 2014 07:01:16 #
May 4, 2014 07:04:43 #
Add wrote:
One more freedom about to be regulated?
Stupidity, insensitivity, encroachment, lack of consideration - these should ALWAYS be regulated. But only in a fair way and by consensus. You are not free to do stupid things if it will affect me in any negative way. And I will determine how "negative" is defined.
May 4, 2014 07:16:11 #
rayford2
Loc: New Bethlehem, PA
DaveHam wrote:
Wow! Paranoia in some of these posts. Someone flyi... (show quote)
"What have you got to hide?"
Plenty. I don't care for things that can take inventory of everything I own and do on my personal property, particularly criminals and people who use YouTube excessively. I might want to sun bathe in the nude behind my house. I don't think it's any of your business or anyone elses what I own or do on my property.
You should get a job with the Supreme Court.
May 4, 2014 07:29:35 #
rayford2 wrote:
"What have you got to hide?"
Plenty. I don't care for things that can take inventory of everything I own and do on my personal property, particularly criminals and people who use YouTube excessively. I might want to sun bathe in the nude behind my house. I don't think it's any of your business or anyone elses what I own or do on my property.
You should get a job with the Supreme Court.
Plenty. I don't care for things that can take inventory of everything I own and do on my personal property, particularly criminals and people who use YouTube excessively. I might want to sun bathe in the nude behind my house. I don't think it's any of your business or anyone elses what I own or do on my property.
You should get a job with the Supreme Court.
Privacy is a delusion. Case in point. You are on the internet, aren't you? You have already given up your privacy. This is the world we live in. You want to sunbathe in your birthday suit in your backyard? Go right ahead. In fact, if you want to do this anywhere in San Francisco - you can!
http://sfpublicpress.org/news-notes/2013-06/nudists-continue-to-cause-controversy-despite-sf-citywide-ban
You may not need a fence around your property, but others might want it - just sayin'
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