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Apr 10, 2014 22:49:53   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
The background kills the tree. Against sky it would be striking, especially with strong cross lighting, dawn or late afternoon. Ansel Adams.

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Apr 15, 2014 13:32:30   #
brokeweb Loc: Philadelphia
 
The other tone-mapped examples of fixes are overcooked to say the least. What I would attempt is to darken the background by creating two layers dark on the top layer, and your normal exposure below the dark layer. create a layer mask on the dark layer and with a soft-edged-black brush and the layer mask selected paint over the bushes and branches to bring them through.

If you want to avoid all of this processing. I suggest spot metering your shot and use a fill flash, like the little one on top of your camera.

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Apr 15, 2014 16:30:22   #
JRDPHOTOGRAPHY Loc: Florida and Ohio
 
Psergel wrote:
Hi,
I'm not really trying to make this particular image better. It's nothing to write home about period.
What I would like to know is if there is some wisdom around how to get some separation between the tree and the background in this kind of situation.
Should I have used a bigger aperture? I don't think a blurred background would have helped much because of the sort of "gray on gray" that exists.

I was using an 85mm....would I have gotten a better result if I had moved back and used say at 200?

I've tried a number of times to get a striking photo of a gnarled old tree and they always disappoint.
Hi, br I'm not really trying to make this particul... (show quote)


I feel if you moved back and shot wide open with the 200mm you could have achieved a higher bokeh capture, blowing the background out of focus and making the tree "pop" from the distant hills behind it. I recreated this for you in photoshop to show what the possible effect would look like.

Click the download link to see it full frame

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©Psergel...
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Apr 17, 2014 11:02:34   #
Regis Loc: Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
 
I tried to enhance this photo.


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Apr 17, 2014 11:47:44   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Psergel wrote:
Hi,
I'm not really trying to make this particular image better. It's nothing to write home about period.
What I would like to know is if there is some wisdom around how to get some separation between the tree and the background in this kind of situation.
Should I have used a bigger aperture? I don't think a blurred background would have helped much because of the sort of "gray on gray" that exists.

I was using an 85mm....would I have gotten a better result if I had moved back and used say at 200?

The only way this background could be made to work is with a very fast long lens using a wide aperture so that you could throw the background way out of focus. Sufficient bokeh might result in a usable photo. But best to move your camera so that you can shoot the tree against a sky. The other option is to shoot against a very distant background like in this photo, but even in that case the tree is not the feature it should be.:

I've tried a number of times to get a striking photo of a gnarled old tree and they always disappoint.
Hi, br I'm not really trying to make this particul... (show quote)



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Apr 17, 2014 12:15:25   #
CatMarley Loc: North Carolina
 
Change your camera to shoot against sky. Here is what it might look like.



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Apr 21, 2014 00:09:07   #
jcboy3
 
While it appears to be a "gray on gray" issue, you can see that the tree is in sunlight while the background is mostly in shade. So after applying exposure/highlight/shadow/contrast adjustment in Lightroom, with some increase in saturation and vibrance, I pulled down the blue and some purple to darken the background. Then I applied a brush mask to drop the exposure by -0.6 on the sunlight sand directly behind the tree.

It's a low resolution JPG; I think this can be even better with high res or RAW.

From a shooting standpoint, it appears that moving to the left or right to get away from the sunlight ridge behind the tree might help. On the other hand, I like the way the tree seems to line up against the highlighted parts of the ridge. I would try all three shots and see which gave best results. Shoot in RAW, and you can take a little more time than I spent in post to get what you want.

Remember, if it's worth shooting, it's worth working the shot.


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Apr 25, 2014 16:23:03   #
jimni2001 Loc: Sierra Vista, Arizona, USA
 
Here is my down and dirty attempt. I blurred the background (Not too carefully as I went over some places that didn't need blurred.)to give it some depth. I did a simple curves adjustment and sharpened.


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