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Jan 9, 2014 09:42:19   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Hi,
I'm not really trying to make this particular image better. It's nothing to write home about period.
What I would like to know is if there is some wisdom around how to get some separation between the tree and the background in this kind of situation.
Should I have used a bigger aperture? I don't think a blurred background would have helped much because of the sort of "gray on gray" that exists.

I was using an 85mm....would I have gotten a better result if I had moved back and used say at 200?

I've tried a number of times to get a striking photo of a gnarled old tree and they always disappoint.

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Jan 9, 2014 09:44:05   #
Dianakkb Loc: Norwalk, Ohio
 
No picture

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Jan 9, 2014 09:45:35   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Dianakkb wrote:
No picture


Ooops



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Jan 9, 2014 09:45:54   #
Nikocarol Loc: NM & FL
 
Can you show the image?

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Jan 9, 2014 09:47:01   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Nikocarol wrote:
Can you show the image?


About once a week I forget to include an attachment.....sorry.

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Jan 9, 2014 09:48:57   #
Mercer Loc: Houston, TX, USA
 
Do something about the flat, complex background.

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Jan 9, 2014 09:50:25   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Dianakkb wrote:
No picture


See....you helped me already

:)

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Jan 9, 2014 09:52:38   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Mercer wrote:
Do something about the flat, complex background.


That's kind of what I'm asking. Is there any trick of the trade to make the background less "part of the picture"....to separate the tree from the bland background that I can't change?

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Jan 9, 2014 09:55:29   #
Nikocarol Loc: NM & FL
 
Hahaha...I can total relate. ;o) I am wondering if processing in b&w would be a good choice.I have to run now but will try when I get home this evening.

Depending on F stop I wonder if you shot this at f2 or the largest F number you have to blur out backround a bit...what did you shot this at?

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Jan 9, 2014 09:56:05   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
How far away is the background from the tree? Do you know what aperture you were using? You didn't click "store original" so I can't see. If background is too close to separate via less depth of field, you could possibly try when darker out, and use a flash on the tree. Also could try shooting from very low angle.

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Jan 9, 2014 10:05:17   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
How far away is the background from the tree? Do you know what aperture you were using? You didn't click "store original" so I can't see. If background is too close to separate via less depth of field, you could possibly try when darker out, and use a flash on the tree. Also could try shooting from very low angle.


Original included.

If I remember correctly the tree was about 20-30 feet from the base of the little hill behind it. The lens was set to 85mm and f8.
This was in NM where the sun is kind of unkind.



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Jan 9, 2014 10:15:12   #
Bill Houghton Loc: New York area
 
I see you are shooting in a desert setting, You are in an environment that isn't by nature a good place to shoot. With little or no color variations to begin with. I would recommend a CP lens if you are shooting in the afternoon. I would also suggest a good PP program to adjust your photos after the shoot. I have taken the liberty of doing a little PP work. If you wish report me to the PP police. I haven't changed the color levels only the brightness, contrast and clarity.



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Jan 9, 2014 10:23:04   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
Bill Houghton wrote:
I see you are shooting in a desert setting, You are in an environment that isn't by nature a good place to shoot. With little or no color variations to begin with. I would recommend a CP lens if you are shooting in the afternoon. I would also suggest a good PP program to adjust your photos after the shoot. I have taken the liberty of doing a little PP work. If you wish report me to the PP police. I haven't changed the color levels only the brightness, contrast and clarity.


Thank you....I do see a difference in the PP you did so maybe I'll go back and see if I can tweak it a bit. I got a couple of CPs for Christmas so I'll give that I try when the temperatures make the outdoors a little more inviting.
Thank You.

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Jan 9, 2014 10:35:23   #
Dianakkb Loc: Norwalk, Ohio
 
I hope I assumed correctly, that you didn't mind some help with the image. I just gave it a little WOW effect with Smart Photo Editor. Does this help? Seems to stand out more.

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Jan 9, 2014 10:44:10   #
oldtigger Loc: Roanoke Virginia-USA
 
Psergel wrote:
That's kind of what I'm asking. Is there any trick of the trade to make the background less "part of the picture"....to separate the tree from the bland background that I can't change?


may i post an attempt?

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