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Jan 27, 2012 06:33:06   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
I myself enjoy looking at certain HDR and photomorphing as well as macro, portraits, wedding, landscape and all sorts of photography . It is an ART FORM and as such very subjective, nobody likes everything, if you dont like it you just dont like it. Lets not quell the creative juices of others and like everything else there are extremes.

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Jan 27, 2012 06:59:07   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
jjestar wrote:
I myself enjoy looking at certain HDR and photomorphing as well as macro, portraits, wedding, landscape and all sorts of photography . It is an ART FORM and as such very objective, nobody likes everything, if you dont like it you just dont like it. Lets not quell the creative juices of others and like everything else there are extremes.


Can I point out something?

These are inconsistent statements:

"It's an ART FORM and as such very objective (I actually THINK you meant to say "subjective")..." meaning that we cannot say that some over-halo'd shot isn't good; it's just "not to my taste....

And then that statement is following by the very objective statement that there are "extremes..." which; if everything is "subjective" and there is no right or wrong, cannot be true..its' an objective truth statement.

:)

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Jan 27, 2012 07:12:45   #
Cornishpete Loc: Illinois
 
tramsey wrote:
I agree, 99% of the HDR is over done. I have see very few that I like. Some of them when you open them, is like a slap in the face.
I googled 'the orton effect' and took a look at something totally different than what I see here.
I made a comment to that effect and got blasted out of the water, just what I expected.

AK Dreamer, post another one in your corner


99%? How did you arrive at that number? If you pick five 'bad' ones out of five you could say say 100% are bad but how many did you pass by that didn't say HDR but never the less did have some HDR work done on them? It is kind of like a bald guy wearing a wig made of polyester and then we declare that all topees and wigs are bad.

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Jan 27, 2012 07:16:56   #
Cornishpete Loc: Illinois
 
Now be fair guys. Some of these old geezers have dial-up and 10 yr old computers. It really does take too much of their lives away being 'forced' to look at bad images. Shudder!

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Jan 27, 2012 07:32:21   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
rpavich wrote:
jjestar wrote:
I myself enjoy looking at certain HDR and photomorphing as well as macro, portraits, wedding, landscape and all sorts of photography . It is an ART FORM and as such very objective, nobody likes everything, if you dont like it you just dont like it. Lets not quell the creative juices of others and like everything else there are extremes.


Can I point out something?

These are inconsistent statements:

"It's an ART FORM and as such very objective (I actually THINK you meant to say "subjective")..." meaning that we cannot say that some over-halo'd shot isn't good; it's just "not to my taste....

And then that statement is following by the very objective statement that there are "extremes..." which; if everything is "subjective" and there is no right or wrong, cannot be true..its' an objective truth statement.

:)
quote=jjestar I myself enjoy looking at certain H... (show quote)


Sorry you are correct I did mean "subjective" and what ever extreme you like is the truth if you are honest in your opinion. I think you meant that statement is "followed" by the....

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Jan 27, 2012 07:35:38   #
RockinRobinG Loc: The Middle of Nowhere, Nebraska
 
Opened thread...didn't like it...NEXT!!!
Sheesh...that didn't take long at all~
Come on people...if ya don't like it, just move on. It's not a huge deal. No need for a bunch of different categories.

BTW...if'n ya don't like the overprocessed HDR images or blurry Orton Effect images, then you certainly learned something...your learned that you don't like them.

'Nuff said.

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Jan 27, 2012 07:36:54   #
jjestar Loc: Savannah GA
 
RockinRobinG wrote:
Opened thread...didn't like it...NEXT!!!
Sheesh...that didn't take long at all~
Come on people...if ya don't like it, just move on. It's not a huge deal. No need for a bunch of different categories.
'Nuff said.


YUP

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Jan 27, 2012 07:42:07   #
jojo Smith Loc: Northern Michigan
 
http://pcin.net/update/2006/11/01/the-orton-effect-digital-photography-tip-of-the-week/... For Those Of You That Dont Know What Orton Effect Is... (I Had To Look It Up To)
Hope This Link Works

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Jan 27, 2012 07:51:54   #
steve_stoneblossom Loc: Rhode Island, USA
 
I wish I could get back the time I spent reading this thread!

No one to blame but myself, though... IMO, new categories should be considered when the subject in question begins to dominate the general forum.

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Jan 27, 2012 08:05:54   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
HDR, and any other effect, is much like a spice used in cooking. It should not be overwhelming, but missed if not used appropriately.

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Jan 27, 2012 08:21:36   #
Image1 Loc: Delaware
 
I think you have just opened a very large can of exploding beans.
There are good reasons to want to use HDR. One is to save an overexposed or underexposed image that you have no chance of ever doing again. Another is to express your indivual opinion as an art form.
The only thing available to me years ago was in the Darkroom. Burning, Dodging, Solarization, focus, etc.
Yes, I know, all of these are available in Photoshop and other digital modification programs. I do use them as I am sure most people do.
I like the use of all of these available tools in a judicial manner. HDR when overdone is not my cup of Tea, but done correctly and in moderation, I dont' think most people can or will identify it's use. It is a great tool. I dont' agree that it needs a seperate section.
Thanks, Image1 (Don)

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Jan 27, 2012 08:30:57   #
Cadugand Loc: Houston, Texas
 
forbescat wrote:
And I would suggest a separate section each for landscapes, moon shots, flowers, bees, grandchildren, dogs, cats, horses, bears, pictures that need to be cropped, pictures that need to be color corrected, pictures by people under 50, pictures by people over 50, etc. Come on, folks. Is your time so valuable that you can't open a thread and move on because you aren't interested. I do it all the time.


Right on. It's all about the light and how we interpret it. None of it is real.

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Jan 27, 2012 08:32:02   #
vintagemodman Loc: Milwaukee, WI
 
I don't see anything wrong with trying something different in photography. Some people said digital photography will never take the place of film, some prefer to develop their own photos, some like to use photoshop to re-touch their photos! I think that is what's neat about photography. Look at it with an open mind and axccept the creativity that others might have. I personally love the way HDR looks but that's me. I guess if you don't like it, don't open the posts, but don't cut it down for those who enjoy it.

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Jan 27, 2012 08:38:10   #
PlushToy Loc: Nebraska
 
I Totally agree

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Jan 27, 2012 08:57:10   #
Jackinthebox Loc: travel the world
 
99.9% right AK.






AK Dreamer wrote:
It seems to me more and more photo enthusiasts are trying their hands at HDR and asking for comments. I've only commented to one individual and will refrain from doing so in the future as I believe most of these attempts at art are nothing short of disastrous. Good photos are turned into images worthy of nothing but the circular file. Out-of-focus photos are now stated to have been created using the Orton effect. Perhaps I'm an old stick in the mud but unless done properly HDR is a waste of everyone's time. By now you can see I am not a fan of HDR and am strongly in favor of natural photography. All that having been said and probably provoking many, I can support different art forms and believe expanding one's knowledge base is commendable but folks...HDR & Orton is not for me. What I'd like to see is a seperate section for HDR & Orton Effect added to this forum (like the macro section) so that when one opens a thread expecting to view realistic photos he/she is not confronted with cartoonish or garrish images. I'd like to know what others think about this and please don't nail me to the cross. I don't advocate not displaying the work of those that believe HDR & Orton are legitimite art forms, I would just like to have them in a collection where one can avoid them at will. Convince me I'm wrong...an old dog can learn new tricks but it may take a while.
It seems to me more and more photo enthusiasts are... (show quote)

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