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Dec 28, 2013 13:26:33   #
nedell Loc: Holland NY USA
 
duane13 wrote:
That's like asking, "you're dying of thirst, so which would you rather have: water or water?" while ignoring Gatorade (Sony).


I absolutely hate the taste of Gatorade!!!

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Dec 28, 2013 16:56:33   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
saichiez wrote:
Fortunately, there are far more than two choices. If Canon and Nikon were the only contenders, the market would languish.

It's the competition from a broad market of manufacturer's that keep Canon and Nikon on their toes. It's certainly not the competition of the two against each other.

Take this for an example:

In spite of a growing market in "mirrorless" camera's, neither Canon or Nikon can bring a real "mirrorless" competitor to that market. Their mirrorless offerings have little value, and the used prices for their mirrorless products certainly demonstrate that point.

The camera's nipping at CaNikon heels drive them to refine and evolve their products. The money they spend on marketing must eclipse what the other contenders spend. That alone is a large part of their product prices.

Sony (who provides Nikons sensors... Nikons first partner in sensors was Kodak) is fast on their heels and in some cases providing a better Sony product at Nikon's expense. The income from this collaboration with Nikon is helping Sony compete in "Nikons Playpen". This is evidence by the number of pros switching to Sony.

If you are truly a "wannabe" professional, you are being bypassed by not looking at Sony.

Then there are the other "right on the heels, and sometimes surpassing" CaNikon offerings.....

Olympus
Pentax
Fujifilm
and more.

Primarily in the mirrorless market, which again, Professional Photogs are starting to pick up and use.

Your world is fraught with blinders if you are ONLY interested in what CaNikon is doing. They are losing their shirts in some markets, and while they are recognized market leaders, one might ask... "Yes, but is that from name recognition, or from a significant lead in product and image quality?"

Take for instance, the improvement in three of Nikon's camera's... the D800E, the D7100, and the D5300 by increasing sharpness from the camera with the removal of the AA filters. This move comes as pressure from Olympus, Pentax and Sony on starting to weed the AA filters out of their camera's, as much as three years ago in Olympus' case.

And where is Canon on this new move which should have been done a long time ago. Nowhere to be found. No talk at all of taking out the Low Pass AA filters.

Could it be that Canon has not addressed the sensor specifications that allow, or favor, "moire patterns". I bring this up since they are having such large problems with "moire" on the video of their low priced full frame sensor... the Canon 6D?????

The suggested Canon for no problems with Video is the D5 MkIII, over the 6D. While the 6D is getting great reviews for it's still images, I would never buy a 6D. Last thing I want to do is sell a camera with a feature that never cut the mark, no matter how good the still images may be.

Some will surely take Canon's side by mentioning that Canon will fix the Video problem in "firmware".

Remember this about "firmware". It's not attractive as truly designing the product right in the first place. It's an indication of a company rushing a product to market before the design is completed. "Firmware" fixes are a "wing and a prayer". You buy, betting on the come, and what if it doesn't happen. You have a flawed product to get rid of. Thank god for unsuspicious "Wannabe's" in the used market.

Oh, yeah, it's a wonderful car, but they did not build the Air Conditioning right, and it's reputed to not work properly on all cars of that model.....Hmmmmph.

Who knows.

Canon and Nikon the only players worth a look???. I doooon't thiiiink soooo!!!!!

:lol:
Fortunately, there are far more than two choices. ... (show quote)


^^^EXCELLENT post!!! http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww173/prestonjjrtr/Congrats/bravosmiley.gif

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Dec 28, 2013 17:09:44   #
CHOLLY Loc: THE FLORIDA PANHANDLE!
 
Cdouthitt wrote:
The omd em1 has the largest, clearest evf. I like being able to do focus peaking through it with a push of one of the many customizable buttons.


^^^People using optical view finders really ARE missing out on a LOT.

I haven't used the Oly EVF, but it sounds VERY similar to the 2.36 million pixel unit on the Sony A77, A99, A7/7R, and NEX-7, which I can PERSONALLY vouch for.

It is basically a miniature super high definition TV that shows you EXACTLY the image you will be recording. It is OUTSTANDING... and in the Sony's, you have Focus Peaking... something impossible with an Optical View Finder.

Honestly, I don't think I'll buy an OVF camera again after using the EVF on my A77; it's just that good! :thumbup:

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Dec 28, 2013 19:50:00   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
rhculverwell wrote:
Since the implosion of film/Kodak and the like, electronic camera designers/producers have blossomed in a geometric fashion. At the moment, within the same price ranges, what company does the average professional or advanced hobby photographer perceive as the best value given a choice of only two - Canon or Nikon?


All depends on what YOU want to do and how the camera fits YOUR hands and needs. Canon, Nikon, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic, ALL make very high quality equipment, but the FINAL RESULT depends on YOUR needs and desires!!

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Dec 28, 2013 20:42:25   #
cthahn
 
rhculverwell wrote:
Since the implosion of film/Kodak and the like, electronic camera designers/producers have blossomed in a geometric fashion. At the moment, within the same price ranges, what company does the average professional or advanced hobby photographer perceive as the best value given a choice of only two - Canon or Nikon?


They are both excellent. It all depends on the user as to what he or she like or favor.

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