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MACRO--Canon 65mm Macro. Is it fantastic to buy ?
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Sep 28, 2013 14:40:36   #
Psergel Loc: New Mexico
 
If I don't make too much commotion I can usually get to within 8 feet. The dragonfly takes off but if I sit and wait he'll often come right back to the same spot and I can inch closer and closer. I may have to go through this 2 or three times.

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Sep 28, 2013 15:11:53   #
cactuspic Loc: Dallas, TX
 
If you are after small insects, flower stigmas, or the like, it is a great lens. The learning curve is a little steep, as the depth of field is miniscule as you extend to 5x. Also a flash with a modeling light is extremely helpful as you lose about 6 stops of light at 5x. Focusing is by changing the lens to subject distance, as opposed to using a focus ring. That said, if you need high magnification and the flexibility of changing magnification it is a very sharp lens.

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Sep 28, 2013 15:58:18   #
Bill gomberg
 
Terra Australis wrote:
Then get the lens you want. Do not let anyone talk you out of it. It is a stunning lens for 1:1 or closer. If you think this has the feelgood factor, then go for it otherwise you will end up disappointed.

It will be a difficult lens to use but who cares?

Oliver.


Bad advice


Rent . Then decide.

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Sep 28, 2013 16:59:36   #
pdwoodswood Loc: Lewisville, NC
 
photosarah wrote:
I have this lens. I bought it second-hand from e-Bay. It is a really difficult lens to use, but it depends on what sort of photography you do. If you want to get big close-ups of very small subjects eg insects, it will do a marvellous job, but you really have to have a ring light or similar on your camera (and maybe an off camera flash as well) as you have to get so close to the subject that the lens will cast a shadow and block any other light. You will certainly need a good tripod (it is quite a heavy lens) and any movement either in the camera or by the subject will immediately ruin the photo, as the d-o-f is miniscule. It isn't generally a lens you can take out and about (although there is someone on this site who does that, I believe). You would be better off with a Canon 100mm macro if you want to go walks in the woods with a macro. But if you have time to spare to set up the 65mm lens and the lighting, and a subject that will stay still, you can get amazing shots. I'm attaching a photo, one of the earliest I took, of a quarter-inch bluebottle. You can see that the focus falls off really quickly, even on its' head. I used a ring=flash and an off camera flash to get the light on this fly. I have not as yet mastered the lens, because it does take up a lot of time. It is a great lens, but I would say, fairly specialist. Wonderful if really big close-ups of tiny things is what you are into.
I have this lens. I bought it second-hand from e-... (show quote)


How did you get the beast to remain in one place, or had it expired?

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Sep 28, 2013 21:53:25   #
Tresed47 Loc: Pennsylvania USA
 
Underwaterant wrote:
I'm seriously considering buying it instead
of extension tubes, screw ons or 100mm et cetera macro.
Has anyone had fantastic results and
thoughts.
And dad experiences, please.

Thanks a bunch.


I use this lens all the time - it is great lens for flowers, getting close to insects is more of a challenge but doable - in fact I often sometimes use it with extension tubes to get greater than life size shots. Note all insects were not interfered with and were alive and well. Generally it is an excellent value for money and is extremely sharp. Would I prefer a 100 or 180 mm macro - sure - but if you are on a budget this lens will allow you to take outstanding macros. I do use a ring flash for a lot of photos to give me a greater dof, but this is not necessary if you have good light











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Sep 28, 2013 22:20:48   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Underwaterant wrote:
I'm seriously considering buying it {Canon 65mm Macro} instead of extension tubes, screw ons or 100mm et cetera macro. Has anyone had fantastic results and thoughts.
Do you have a crop frame camera or full frame.
Regardless - I have the Canon 100mm f/2.8 L IS - one of their BEST lenses.
You can shoot Macro with it - or portrait - sharp as a tack.
If you get the non-IS version - it's about 1/2 the cost of the IS version. Either is highly recommended.

Canon 7D & EF 100 f/2.8L IS - No PP - SOOC - - Stauer Machina Watch
Canon 7D & EF 100 f/2.8L IS - No PP - SOOC - - Sta...

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Sep 28, 2013 22:43:53   #
Terra Australis Loc: Australia
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
I have the 100mm f/2.8 L IS Canon - one of their BEST lenses.


Yes an excellent lens but a completely different type of lens to the one the OP is interested in.

The OP wants a lens for very close up insects flowers etc. His choice will go to 5:1 on the body. It is not a portrait lens, it is a macro lens and instead of comparing it to the Canon 100mm macro lens it should be compared to a Medical Nikkor or a Zeiss Luminar.

If this is the type of lens the the OP wants then the Canon 65mm is just about the best consumer grade lens there is. If the OP wants a portrait lens that will focus close then he will have to rethink his druthers. But if he wants a lens that will do what this lens will do then he has little choice.

Oliver.

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Sep 29, 2013 01:00:23   #
Merlin1300 Loc: New England, But Now & Forever SoTX
 
Terra Australis wrote:
The OP wants a lens for very close up insects flowers etc. His choice will go to 5:1 on the body. It is not a portrait lens, it is a macro lens and instead of comparing it to the Canon 100mm macro lens it should be compared to a Medical Nikkor or a Zeiss Luminar.
Ant - - in that case - recommend you PM Nikonian72. Although he is a Nikon user - he has a world of experience regarding what you'll need for super closeups of bugs and flora.

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Sep 29, 2013 01:08:46   #
LoneRangeFinder Loc: Left field
 
imagemeister wrote:
So, how do you get close to dragonflys - freeze them ?? I use Canon 300 2.8 with 2X for dragonflys ....


The "trick" with dragonflies is to watch them-- they often return to the same perch. I've filled the frame with my macro lens-- less than 2' away. Patience.
;-)

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Sep 29, 2013 02:06:23   #
Nikonian72 Loc: Chico CA
 
I strongly suggest that you first educate yourself on macro lenses in general. There are several different focal lengths, for different purposes, yielding similar, but different results.

Here is a good place to start:
Frequently Asked Questions & Answers Concerning Macro-Photography
http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-36372-1.html

The Canon MP-E 65-mm is an excellent macro lens, but is really designed for the well-experienced macro-photographer. Think of this analogy: general photography is like riding a tricycle; macro-photography is like learning to ride a bicycle; and the Canon MP-E 65-mm lens is like learning to ride a unicycle.

Here is a Canon MP-E 65-mm macro set-up as used by one UHH member, who regularly posts his captured images: http://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-32754-4.html#1800430

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Sep 29, 2013 07:05:31   #
Underwaterant
 
Bret wrote:
I can't speak for the Canon version...but I use the Nikon 60mm macro lens allot...one of my favorites however it does take special effort to get in close.


Ok. Thanks.
Have you used extension tubes.
Or the reversing of lenses ??
I heard there is an adapter with one
end a male thread for, say 77mm,
and a canon EF make mount on the
other end to reverse the lense.
Thanks.

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Sep 29, 2013 07:48:17   #
Bret Loc: Dayton Ohio
 
Ant Iv'e never used any of those...but I'm thinking about a reverse mount ring maybe this winter. If I where you...I'd post that question in the macro forum..those guys and gals are far more knowledgeable about gear like that...well...before buying anything..compatibility and so on.

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Sep 29, 2013 09:27:16   #
Bruce with a Canon Loc: Islip
 
65mm has a sharp learning curve, fertile grounds for frustration,

100 2.8 will do everything you want and more

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Sep 29, 2013 09:51:42   #
Tresed47 Loc: Pennsylvania USA
 
Underwaterant wrote:
Ok. Thanks.
Have you used extension tubes.
Or the reversing of lenses ??
I heard there is an adapter with one
end a male thread for, say 77mm,
and a canon EF make mount on the
other end to reverse the lense.
Thanks.


Sure I have used and still use both, even though I have a macro lens. The macro lens is you most versatile and best choice for general macro photography. Extension tubes are an extremely useful tool; I use them with my macro lens to get larger than life size images and with my tele-lenses to take dragonflies and butterflies. If you buy extension tubes spend the money for a better set that supports the full auto-focus and auto-exposure functions. Extension tubes are a cheaper way into macro photography but first choice is a good macro lens preferably 100mm or longer.

Reversing rings can provide high magnification macro. They provide no auto functions and are very difficult to use. I have used them for experimentation with extreme close up photos - just for fun, but in my humble opinion they cannot be used for wildlife macros.

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Sep 29, 2013 09:55:31   #
Underwaterant
 
Merlin1300 wrote:
Ant - - in that case - recommend you PM Nikonian72. Although he is a Nikon user - he has a world of experience regarding what you'll need for super closeups of bugs and flora.


Thanks.

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