English...as it isn't spoken
Jul 20, 2013 22:36:23 #
What gets to me when people say, "I be... ". and this is not a black thing. I heard a man say, I be going to my house". I pointed out to him that he had left out a word and ask him if he knew what that word was? He did not know.
I have even caught myself saying "I Be...".
I have even caught myself saying "I Be...".
Jul 21, 2013 00:46:43 #
I think it was a valid question. Also, every generation has their own language. we call it slang or colloquial. Many, if not most can switch between local lingo and professional communications on demand.
Thank you for the clarification I often wondered about the proper use of I and me.
Thank you for the clarification I often wondered about the proper use of I and me.
Jul 21, 2013 03:48:13 #
Bangee5 wrote:
What bugs me is when people talk in the first person. "Ray is going to post a message on the UHH now. Ray is going to the fridge for a cold one. Ray is going to crap his pants if Ray doesn't get to the john in time." What gets to me when people say, "I be... ". and this is not a black thing. I heard a man say, I be going to my house". I pointed out to him that he had left out a word and ask him if he knew what that word was? He did not know.
I have even caught myself saying "I Be...".
I have even caught myself saying "I Be...".
Also when folks use that hand signal when referring to the phone. Drives me nuts! I'd like to take that faux phone and shove it up their (_O_).
Or how about "Thanks for sharing"? Share this you mindless twit! Oh, the 'axe' word instead of ask. Gives all the hairs on my b_ _ _ _s an erection.
:XD:
Jul 21, 2013 05:05:35 #
I find I get wound up by people using the word "less" when they should be saying "fewer".For many years I couldn't get my head around when it was correct to say "who" or "whom", I looked it up and finally understod it. I now find myself getting annoyed when people get it wrong. Not in everyday speach but when newscasters do it on the BBC. I was far happier not knowing.
Jul 21, 2013 05:55:48 #
The main problem for me personally with the deteriation in both written and spoken English is where it results in lack of clarity or ambiguity. I am a believer in language evolving, it gives color and identity to different cultures. I even quite like text talk and how it continues to push boundaries, although I struggle to keep up. I dont object to poor spelling per se (unless the perpetrator is complaining about poor English)
Jul 21, 2013 05:58:17 #
I do resent the auto correct on my tablet changing text which I never seem to notice until after I have posted.
Jul 21, 2013 06:22:05 #
cavers wrote:
Just a quick question for any of you language expe... (show quote)
I think they mostly make the mistake the other way, saying "I" instead of "me". Years ago as children we had it drummed into us that when we said "Can Johnnie and me go out to play" that it should be "Johnnie and I". Unfortunately nobody told us when it would be right to say "Johnnie and me". I once had a secretary (obviously a very long time ago!) alter a letter I had written which said "Thank you for seeing Geoff and me yesterday." She changed the "me" to "I". I made her change it back!
Television presenters are not recruited for their expertise in English.
Jul 21, 2013 07:18:06 #
patcam
Loc: chelmsford essex uk
Never mind all this me and I business, when are you Americans going to pronounce the word WATER correctly, note it has a T in the spelling, I cringe when I hear you say WARDER !!!!!
just a thought, please stopping messing with my language,
and please don't be offended, this is very much " tongue in cheek"
Oh and I hate the word AWESOME, or as you say it ARRSOME
just a thought, please stopping messing with my language,
and please don't be offended, this is very much " tongue in cheek"
Oh and I hate the word AWESOME, or as you say it ARRSOME
Jul 21, 2013 07:32:01 #
cavers wrote:
Thankyou for taking a moment to reply Wellheim......but you make my very point.......no I wouldn't say ...me went to a bar because thats singular, but as you pointed out I would say my wife and I went to a bar....what the new BBC convention appears to say is correct would be ...my wife and me went to a bar........but as you so eloquently say...who really cares [other than me]
The rule for English language use of "I" and "Me" have not changed. "I" is always used when the subject of a sentence, whether used as a singular or multiple subject, and "Me" is used when in a prepositional phrase.
I have not caught this error of usage on BBC broadcasts, but if this report of usage is true, it is solely the lack of intelligence of the user, reporter or speaker and not some drastic change in the english language.
Jul 21, 2013 07:37:45 #
rocar7 wrote:
I think they mostly make the mistake the other way... (show quote)
Television presenters are recruited for their ability to read from an autocue. The people who type the autocue should have a knowledge of the language.
Jul 21, 2013 07:51:01 #
TedPaul
Loc: Madison, MS
How about the use of, like, and uh, you know and the kie we hear on the air and on T.V.
Jul 21, 2013 08:10:01 #
The Queen speakes ENGLISH, we here in America speak American," wherefore art thou " was never used in my house " get your butt in this house right now " was more commonly heard.
Jul 21, 2013 08:49:25 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Interesting comment. If I have an employee who does not use correct grammar that person will be looking for a job.
Correct grammar is needed to convey an idea accurately. The same goes for having a broad vocabulary.
Correct grammar is needed to convey an idea accurately. The same goes for having a broad vocabulary.
jim charron wrote:
A lot of intellectuals and stuffy shirts snob type... (show quote)
Jul 21, 2013 08:51:57 #
ole sarg
Loc: south florida
Intellectuals. Why disparage smart or well educated people. They are the ones who invent things like cameras, and solve problems like discovering a vaccine for polio.
I find it interesting that few intellectuals disparage those who are not. Lastly, just what is an intellectual?
I find it interesting that few intellectuals disparage those who are not. Lastly, just what is an intellectual?
Jul 21, 2013 09:02:58 #
alf85
Loc: Northumberland, UK.
Hi, none of us speak proper English, we all speak in dialect's, i live in the UK, in Northumberland, and if i was to talk too you in Nothumbrian you would not understand one word i said.
The point i would like to make is (live and let live).
The point i would like to make is (live and let live).
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