English...as it isn't spoken: Just a quick question for any of you language experts having just read the hilarious comments by 'TerryMac' re the versions of his 'Uncle Jack'...

cavers

Just a quick question for any of you language experts having just read the hilarious comments by 'TerryMac' re the versions of his 'Uncle Jack' joke.......I was always taught at school that it was correct to say 'me' when referring to myself in conversation but to use 'I' when referring to myself with others....eg:- ......Anne and I are going to the shop......however I noticed some time ago that the BBC presenters changed the way they presented their comments to....Anne and me rather than Anne and I and if you listen to them they've replaced I with me in every instance..........is this me not listening carefully enough or maybe I ?

Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.

As a general rule. And remember language isn't the same as maths so all rules are general. the correct way would be to use the same word as you would if you just talikng about yourself. So when talking to a taxi driver you would say "Can you take take my wife and me to town" You wouldn't say can you take I to town. And when you say "my wife and I went to a bar last night" you wouldn't say me went to a bar last night. Like I said these are general rules and who really cares as long as you can be understood?

cavers

Thankyou for taking a moment to reply Wellheim......but you make my very point.......no I wouldn't say ...me went to a bar because thats singular, but as you pointed out I would say my wife and I went to a bar....what the new BBC convention appears to say is correct would be ...my wife and me went to a bar........but as you so eloquently say...who really cares [other than me]

kaz6756 Loc: Canarsie,Brooklyn, New York

Come to NY you will be surprised with the way people speak here. Their English is horrid.
I have to figure out what some are saying in their horrible English.
They are not taught proper English in school anymore.
Plus They are not even taught proper penmanship.
If they are asked to sign something they print their name....go figure. So, we have to get use to all this stuff that is very different.

cavers

I'd love to visit NY.....sadly the heart is willing but the bank account weak.....

jim charron Loc: Ontario Canada

Wellhiem wrote:

"Can you take take my wife and me to town" You wouldn't say can you take I to town. And when you say "my wife and I went to a bar last night" you wouldn't say me went to a bar last night. Like I said these are general rules and who really cares as long as you can be understood?

A lot of intellectuals and stuffy shirts snob types here on the forum and most forums, in my opinion.
I personnally think the young kids have it write texting
with abevations with speed, errors etc... as long as its
understood.
We are not all or not all capable university types flipping burgers at Macdonalds.
Get a life! :thumbdown:

If people speak proper English and write perfectly well good for you,
buy some class and keep it to yourself, thank you very much. :thumbdown:

Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.

jim charron wrote:

A lot of intellectuals and stuffy shirts snob type... (show quote)

I was answering a question. What's your problem? And just for your information when I was faced with the choice of of going on benefits or working at McDonalds I worked at McDonalds.

jim charron Loc: Ontario Canada

Wellhiem wrote:

I was answering a question. What's your problem? And just for your information when I was faced with the choice of of going on benefits or working at McDonalds I worked at McDonalds.

Wellhiem when I said You, I dont mean you but the English experts.
I am in agreement with what you said regarding" as long
as it is understood.

I'm not bashing Macdonalds, just those University snobs who don't have a life and are complaining about proper English and spelling on this photography forum.

Sorry for not being clear.

Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.

jim charron wrote:

Wellhiem when I said You, I dont mean you but the English experts.
I am in agreement with what you said regarding" as long
as it is understood.

I'm not bashing Macdonalds, just those University snobs who don't have a life and are complaining about proper English and spelling on this photography forum.

Sorry for not being clear.

No problem.

tlbuljac Loc: Oklahoma

me, myself and I couldn't agree more

STVest Loc: LA - that's Lower Alabama

cavers wrote:

...who really cares [other than me]

But, if you really cared, you would say, "other than I".

Wellhiem Loc: Sunny England.

I think the people who try to impose their views on how the Engilsh language should be used have probably studied Latin and are trying to apply the same rules. Latin died out for a reason.

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

kaz6756 wrote:

Come to NY you will be surprised with the way people speak here. Their English is horrid.
I have to figure out what some are saying in their horrible English.
They are not taught proper English in school anymore.
Plus They are not even taught proper penmanship.
If they are asked to sign something they print their name....go figure. So, we have to get use to all this stuff that is very different.

Travon Martin's girl friend is 19 years old, has a high school diploma and couldn't read 'cursive'.

:thumbup:

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

jim charron wrote:

A lot of intellectuals and stuffy shirts snob type... (show quote)

I'm sure their teachers felt the same way.

:thumbdown:

magicray Loc: Tampa Bay, Florida

jim charron wrote:

Wellhiem when I said You, I dont mean you but the English experts.
I am in agreement with what you said regarding" as long
as it is understood.

I'm not bashing Macdonalds, just those University snobs who don't have a life and are complaining about proper English and spelling on this photography forum.

Sorry for not being clear.

Actually this is a non-photography forum.