Wedding photography suggestions please
Jun 28, 2013 20:10:43 #
Jul 1, 2013 08:54:39 #
well I'll be happy to sign up to work for free - that is the American way. So were is the contact info for this guy - I tried the graigslist address - it did not work.
I've done a many a free project. I've done projects that I invoiced as well - and the client did not pay his bill. He also had a Bush/Chaney bumper sticker on his vehicle. And his web site proclaim sales of $100 Million in realestate down in Florida - yet this conservative slave driver didn't want to pay his invoice to me - several home repair guys as well looking for their pay - we contacted the IRS and they did nothing - I think he paid the invoices - gave his wife the checks - she then cashed them at a check cashing joint, then deposited the cash back into their account. They kept the invoices to within $650 = he wanted be to bill him seperate for the photography, typesetting, and maps. So this way it all stayed within small claims court. Also, he and two of his buddies sold the same house to each other some 50 times in one year - basically gutting the mortgage market - one of the crew involved was a VP of Country Wide.
So this is the way America works corrupt from one end of Wall Street to the next door Real Estate Broker. But what do you expect in a nation in which the government receives its income off the Backs of our Children's future - this is perhaps the most corrupt nation on earth for that one caper alone - the national debt basically enslaves us all even the yet unborn. Sad but true. So if we work for free - we have nothing to spend and therefore the trade deficit will eventually come down. This way the wealthy get to hord all the money - and if anything goes wrong with the E-CON-NO-ME we can blame it on the Rich folk - and then stop calling it Redistribution of the Wealth - but rather a Voucher for our invested risks to make this nation work. AS long as things are getting done and we are making progress then may the wealthy folk over at FOX will stop lying all the damned time. And running several mouths at once to the point you have no clue as to what they are talking about. Work for Free for Freedom Sake.
I've done a many a free project. I've done projects that I invoiced as well - and the client did not pay his bill. He also had a Bush/Chaney bumper sticker on his vehicle. And his web site proclaim sales of $100 Million in realestate down in Florida - yet this conservative slave driver didn't want to pay his invoice to me - several home repair guys as well looking for their pay - we contacted the IRS and they did nothing - I think he paid the invoices - gave his wife the checks - she then cashed them at a check cashing joint, then deposited the cash back into their account. They kept the invoices to within $650 = he wanted be to bill him seperate for the photography, typesetting, and maps. So this way it all stayed within small claims court. Also, he and two of his buddies sold the same house to each other some 50 times in one year - basically gutting the mortgage market - one of the crew involved was a VP of Country Wide.
So this is the way America works corrupt from one end of Wall Street to the next door Real Estate Broker. But what do you expect in a nation in which the government receives its income off the Backs of our Children's future - this is perhaps the most corrupt nation on earth for that one caper alone - the national debt basically enslaves us all even the yet unborn. Sad but true. So if we work for free - we have nothing to spend and therefore the trade deficit will eventually come down. This way the wealthy get to hord all the money - and if anything goes wrong with the E-CON-NO-ME we can blame it on the Rich folk - and then stop calling it Redistribution of the Wealth - but rather a Voucher for our invested risks to make this nation work. AS long as things are getting done and we are making progress then may the wealthy folk over at FOX will stop lying all the damned time. And running several mouths at once to the point you have no clue as to what they are talking about. Work for Free for Freedom Sake.
Jul 1, 2013 09:45:59 #
Jul 1, 2013 09:49:42 #
Jer wrote:
The point is the guy is tired of being asked to take pictures for free.
Interesting Jer- thanks for posing it.
The unfortunate thing is, some people still won't get it.
Jul 1, 2013 10:16:56 #
Jer wrote:
The point is the guy is tired of being asked to take pictures for free.
I get inquiries at least once a month for a free session, it's mind blowing to me. Some days it's hard to stay professional and not send a smart sarcastic reply back.
I have seen everything from:
you can use my pictures for marketing, my family is gorgeous.
I will tell all my friends to use you (great just want I want more people looking for free or cheap photography).
I love your pictures, but you are priced to high, can we work something out. typically this means they want me to discount my prices highly and in return I get the honor of taking their pictures
Jul 1, 2013 10:25:51 #
SportsMom wrote:
A friend of mine from work would like for me to do... (show quote)
If you're having second thoughts about taking on the project, you'll be miserable doing it. The pressure to perform when you know you aren't ready is just too much wear and tear on the nerves. Just because a "friend" asks you to do something is no reason you HAVE to do it.
Jul 1, 2013 10:33:01 #
Jer wrote:
This is making it rounds on the internet. I think it makes a great point.
Been there done that! ONCE or TWICE. About 45 years ago just starting out I took on a few freebies just for the experience and found that it only led to more people wanting the same thing. Remember, "If it's worth someone having, it's worth someone paying for it".
Jul 1, 2013 10:37:33 #
We should never get tired of doing work for free. Work free for freedom sake. This nation was built on slave labor, and continues to progress with self enslavement, as well as slave wages. The three principles of Capitalism are Slaves or slave wages, lies lots and lots of lying, and tons upon tons upon tons of Debt which completes the circle and the debt enslaves those that were getting away with earning. If this nation keeps earning money - then the trade deficit will continue to decline. In order to bring the trade deficit under controll we need to layoff 55 million wage earners in order to reduce their spending on foreign goods. At least the wealthy have since enough to not spend the money they are earning on anything but real estate which is about the only thing left still made in America. And a lot of the building materials are being made overseas and all the appliances that go into the real estate are made overseas.
Our only hope to bring the trade deficit under control is to start working for free. Work FREE for FREEDOMS SAKE - Commrades.
Our only hope to bring the trade deficit under control is to start working for free. Work FREE for FREEDOMS SAKE - Commrades.
Jul 1, 2013 10:39:50 #
Jul 1, 2013 10:50:10 #
How did I ruin it? Just stating facts. The trade deficit in 2001 was about -$250 billion that was managable. But with Brat Junior I mean Bush Junior left office the Trade Deficit was -$1.2 trillon - and it is interest payments on the national debt that is the main source now of our trade deficit. However, the cold war debts were made on our own banks and institutions - so we were in debt to ourselves back then. But now we are in debt to more foreigners than ever before. However, the good news is all that debt to China has put them in more cars than ever in world history - and those cars have to have oil - leave it to the oil barron to make it happen off the backs of the American Tax Payers. Still have not heard a good excuse to even attempt to rescue anyone from the WTC - not to mention - not seeing one person making it to the roof that day - strange indeed. Very Strange. And I think the most corrupt government on earth has to be the one that sucks it's income off the backs of yet unborn. Why the war on poverty must be to throw money on poor people until they suficate under the pile of money.
Jul 1, 2013 11:02:57 #
you're using it for your own political agenda. The person had a serious question dealing with Photography and not world politics. please stay on topic.
Jul 1, 2013 11:36:29 #
I thought the topic was working for free. What better example than to demonstrate the world view of personal sacrifice and free labor and the remarkable advantages of working for free. Some in the blog had been pro free labor, others would not be willing to work for free. I've worked for free and glad I did. Volunteer service is essential and often when folks are unemployed it is suggested that they build up a stronger network by volunteering their time. I volunteer my equipment and time for United Way - it was not appreciated by United Way - but it did get me into a better money making opportunity a few months later. World politics does play a vital role in our lives and careers. The total impact of politics impacts our abilities as well opens the doors to possibilities. There is all kinds of free money for photography grants in several realms, education, photo documentary, science, medicine you name it - many ways were the photographer gets paid, the tax payers pick up the tab. Perhaps a wedding documentary with grant money could lead to a research on why some 78% of marriages fail within 3 years. As well as, a finding as to the true percent of marriage failures with a nation of multiple marriage failures within those that fail in marriage multiple times. There are all kinds of ways to make up for the lack of money in the photographic realm. AS to the blog and forum here - I thought we were all about promoting photography - therefore, the topic could seem to move way off base - yet at the same time be painting the picture of what all impacts us as photographers economically or in the E-Con-No-Me. The lack of clients having or wanting to spend money - what is driving this slave mentality within this nation of slavelessness or the avoidance of the topic or topics all together. Perhaps the comments off topic or off color will begin or provoke a thought for a new direction of economic theory - perhaps explore the realm of new economic thinking toward a Vested Economic system where by ownership of 50% off all revenue belongs to the Tax Payer as Collateral or even earn dividends - even behold a revenue ownership of that 50% that could be left for inheritance. Better yet a Vested System of Economics that would eventually within say 50 years allow the citizens to life out the rest of their lives following six years of participating in the tax system - to live TAX FREE from that point forward. Thus motivation for many free services that are paid for via the revenue earning potential. I've known people who have earned enough in their youth that they lived off the interest for the rest or part of their lives - if they can do it certainly a government can do it. I've seen a $38 billion bailout paid back in four years with a $20 billion net profit on top. If that works then so should a complete Vested Economic Revenue System. It worked for Joseph and Egypt at the time - even the corruption policed itself during that time. So if it worked then - it should work now.
Jul 1, 2013 16:42:12 #
wilsondl2 wrote:
Go for it SportsMom. If you like it it will give you some samples to show. - Dave
sure! That would be very much appreciated!
Jul 1, 2013 16:44:41 #
Annie_Girl wrote:
Lets see.... in her opening statement she said I... (show quote)
What I find paticularly harsh is that you refer to me as if your rant isn't directed at me...
Jul 1, 2013 16:46:08 #
Jer wrote:
This is making it rounds on the internet. I think it makes a great point.
now that IS funny!! I prefer the light-hearted approach myself!
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