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Dec 12, 2011 08:55:58 #
Use Photoshop elements. You can't go wrong with the guided mode!!! :thumbup:
Dec 12, 2011 09:00:47 #
Rick, I gathered a slew of short (4 minutes max) GIMP tutorials and arranged them in what I hope is a logical series that constitutes a "course." You can view them on-line, or download them, from:
Online GIMP course
http://ppl.ug/CPS0LvZOSD0/
If you check them out, by all means let me know what you think of them.
Chuck
Online GIMP course
http://ppl.ug/CPS0LvZOSD0/
If you check them out, by all means let me know what you think of them.
Chuck
Dec 12, 2011 09:13:21 #
photoshop is much more than the average photographer need . especially almost $700 you could buy a nice lens .Elements for less than a $100 is a very good starting place untill you advance to higher levels.
Dec 12, 2011 09:45:14 #
Dec 12, 2011 09:50:31 #
docrob
Loc: Durango, Colorado
rickyd wrote:
ok I have a question for the PP pro,s here, I have psp7, and have gimp, question is this,,is it worth upgrading to photoshop and if so which version is best?,,there are so many and each has different opions ,,I am barely learning psp and gimp, most of the thing on these I am still not able to do , but I am leaning more each day,,I hear the learning curve on PS is even worse,,any help would be appreciated
i use photoshop version 8. I have access to CS5 - I see some but not alot of difference.
Dec 12, 2011 10:03:29 #
Hello,
I am no expert by any means but I always think that simple is better, most of the features of PS are never used. So you are paying $700 for a bunch of functionality that you will never use. I have used a pretty simple program and it suits my needs fine and it is written from the point of view of a photographer so almost everything to me was just intuitive. I have been using it for over 10 years actually probably closer to 15 years. I am not saying you should go out and buy Picture Window but my point is that simple is good and then you can upgrade after you truly out grow it, which I never have. I am pretty sure it was under $50. It sounds like you haven't hit that point with your current program. BTW, I ride a Honda Magna, but it is of course not riding weather.
Thanks,
Barry
I am no expert by any means but I always think that simple is better, most of the features of PS are never used. So you are paying $700 for a bunch of functionality that you will never use. I have used a pretty simple program and it suits my needs fine and it is written from the point of view of a photographer so almost everything to me was just intuitive. I have been using it for over 10 years actually probably closer to 15 years. I am not saying you should go out and buy Picture Window but my point is that simple is good and then you can upgrade after you truly out grow it, which I never have. I am pretty sure it was under $50. It sounds like you haven't hit that point with your current program. BTW, I ride a Honda Magna, but it is of course not riding weather.
Thanks,
Barry
Dec 12, 2011 10:14:25 #
I suprised nobody mentioned Picasso. Its free and it does quite a bit. I haven't used the others so I can't compare. Do other people have experience with it compared to the others mentioned?
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Dec 12, 2011 10:30:30 #
tambriab
Loc: Daytona Beach
I shoot professionally and have been working with Photoshop for 10 years. PS is a complicated but wonderful program, it does have quite a learning curve. I was told in college, by a professor, that it takes 700 hours to become proficient with PS.
I am still running Photoshop CS and have not upgraded. I really didn't see anything in later versions that would make me want to spend $800! But I am tempted on the latest version :) If you can afford it, go for it. There is a great book that will help you out, Adobe's, Photoshop Classroom in a Book. Comes with a CD that has lessions on it. Have fun.
I am still running Photoshop CS and have not upgraded. I really didn't see anything in later versions that would make me want to spend $800! But I am tempted on the latest version :) If you can afford it, go for it. There is a great book that will help you out, Adobe's, Photoshop Classroom in a Book. Comes with a CD that has lessions on it. Have fun.
Dec 12, 2011 10:56:01 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
nyweb2001 wrote:
PSP=Corel's Paint Shop Pro....a $40.00 program. I have it but Elements kicks it's butt !
Just Googled PSP and am finding it for under $5.00. Does say open box, like new...........Am on Tech for Less website. Just FYI.
Dec 12, 2011 10:57:04 #
Dec 12, 2011 10:58:29 #
ShelterCove
Loc: Nowhere, CA
ShelterCove wrote:
Just Googled PSP and am finding it for under $5.00. Does say open box, like new...........Am on Tech for Less website. Just FYI.
For Version X2. I think X4 is the latest.nyweb2001 wrote:
PSP=Corel's Paint Shop Pro....a $40.00 program. I have it but Elements kicks it's butt !
Just Googled PSP and am finding it for under $5.00. Does say open box, like new...........Am on Tech for Less website. Just FYI.
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Dec 12, 2011 11:04:25 #
ShelterCove wrote:
ShelterCove wrote:
Just Googled PSP and am finding it for under $5.00. Does say open box, like new...........Am on Tech for Less website. Just FYI.
For Version X2. I think X4 is the latest.nyweb2001 wrote:
PSP=Corel's Paint Shop Pro....a $40.00 program. I have it but Elements kicks it's butt !
Just Googled PSP and am finding it for under $5.00. Does say open box, like new...........Am on Tech for Less website. Just FYI.
Yes....I didn't upgrade ! I mostly use Elements 9 now !
Dec 12, 2011 11:19:34 #
goto website called friday photo school done by will crockett has a viedo showing 3 different PP programs will give you an idea, he shows each program one is free picassa, then a middle of the road $40-$70 range then lightroom...some good info.
rickyd wrote:
ok I have a question for the PP pro,s here, I have psp7, and have gimp, question is this,,is it worth upgrading to photoshop and if so which version is best?,,there are so many and each has different opions ,,I am barely learning psp and gimp, most of the thing on these I am still not able to do , but I am leaning more each day,,I hear the learning curve on PS is even worse,,any help would be appreciated
Dec 12, 2011 11:21:46 #
If you shop for it Elements 10 is now less than $50.
I have two Master's degrees and a high level of profociency using computer software. I have had my Elements 10 for a couple of months now. I am not going to be expert on it for years.
From what I have seen on Photoshop EVERYTHING you learn with Elements will transfer right over.
I tried Gimp. It isn't more difficult than Elements but it isn't as complete or professional. In particular the learning material is quite weak. I have a copy of great book I'll sell on it...I have moved to concentrate on Elements.
Elements is three programs. The Organizer is like Lightroom. The Editor is like Photoshop. And I think the Adobe Camera Raw that comes with it is the same as with Photoshop...but might be a "light" version also.
Elements has great learning materials and a great magazine. I am learning fast but as suggested above there is much to learn.
Regards,
Larry Leach
I have two Master's degrees and a high level of profociency using computer software. I have had my Elements 10 for a couple of months now. I am not going to be expert on it for years.
From what I have seen on Photoshop EVERYTHING you learn with Elements will transfer right over.
I tried Gimp. It isn't more difficult than Elements but it isn't as complete or professional. In particular the learning material is quite weak. I have a copy of great book I'll sell on it...I have moved to concentrate on Elements.
Elements is three programs. The Organizer is like Lightroom. The Editor is like Photoshop. And I think the Adobe Camera Raw that comes with it is the same as with Photoshop...but might be a "light" version also.
Elements has great learning materials and a great magazine. I am learning fast but as suggested above there is much to learn.
Regards,
Larry Leach
nyweb2001 wrote:
It's not easy but it's basically a scaled down version of PS. As I said, I looked at PS and had a feeling I would never make use of the full program. I downloaded Elements 9 Trial Version, watched the on line videos, and got a handle on it in a few months ! If I ever decide to buy PS, I'll have a good jump on it !!! I liked spending $79.00 versus 100's for PS also !
rickyd wrote:
has elements none been hard to learn?, thanks for replying so fast
It's not easy but it's basically a scaled down version of PS. As I said, I looked at PS and had a feeling I would never make use of the full program. I downloaded Elements 9 Trial Version, watched the on line videos, and got a handle on it in a few months ! If I ever decide to buy PS, I'll have a good jump on it !!! I liked spending $79.00 versus 100's for PS also !
Dec 12, 2011 11:49:01 #
Theres lots of free stuff. Just do google search for free photo editing. What you wind up with either free or buying will depend on what you want to do with your pictures
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