jeep_daddy wrote:
You didn't need a fast lens in either of this great images. In most cases you don't need a fast wide angle lens. f/4 is usually fine.
Hi jeep_daddy, you are so right thats why I posted those pics, however, I was on a trip through Germany last year and I saw the most magnificent cathedral in Cologne and I sure could have used the extra speed.
PalePictures wrote:
This is true. I have never used the lens at F2.8. I have never used the lens below F11!
I like the L build. I like the L coating.(reduces CA).
Moriti.... Nice shot of the boat!
As Mdorn eluded earlier. The lens makes a very small difference at best.
Depending on the circumstances L glass can make a big difference.
Russ
Thanks for the compliment on my boat shot, just wanted to say that your lens certainly has a much better feel and build but the 17-40mm is a L lens.
Your photos are also excellent!!
Michael
moriti wrote:
Thanks for the compliment on my boat shot, just wanted to say that your lens certainly has a much better feel and build but the 17-40mm is a L lens.
Your photos are also excellent!!
Michael
I have one example where the 16-35 may give better results. It is difficult to say because I haven't tried(do not own) the 17-40mm.
That would be in low light portraiture. Typically lens's perform worse when shooting close to lower aperture extremes(F5.6 would theoretically be sharper for a 2.8 lens than a F4 lens.) I haven't looked at the MTF chart to see if that's the case but I would expect it to be so.
Using a wide angle lens is very rare in portraiture. Unless you know what your doing I would not recommend it. Because of this I would say to get the 17-40. It will meet 99% of the members needs. Save your bucks and get another lens... Like the 70-200 2.8. or the 24-70 2.8. If your on a FF camera it would be questionable if you even need a 16-35 with the 24-70.
The portrait below was taken with the 16-35. I did it for the effect and because I could. Focal length was around 24mm and corrected slightly in post. To see the larger version(for details) you can visit my Street B&W Gallery on my website.
I was only about a foot from this guys face with this lens. Taken at F5.6
RUss
Another closeup with the 16-35
I looked at this lens about 10 years ago, it was the first model. It was around $1,500 then. After reading more than one negative review, I went with the Tamron 16-34 F/2.8-4 for $499 (discontinued). Although I haven't been happy with the last Tamrons I bought, this lens is great. Also, mostly used for landscapes so F/2.8 is rairly used. Why pay the $$$$ for f/2.8 capabilities if your not going to use it. I've also been looking hard at the Canon 10-22.
PalePictures wrote:
I have one example where the 16-35 may give better results. It is difficult to say because I haven't tried(do not own) the 17-40mm.
That would be in low light portraiture. Typically lens's perform worse when shooting close to lower aperture extremes(F5.6 would theoretically be sharper for a 2.8 lens than a F4 lens.) I haven't looked at the MTF chart to see if that's the case but I would expect it to be so.
Using a wide angle lens is very rare in portraiture. Unless you know what your doing I would not recommend it. Because of this I would say to get the 17-40. It will meet 99% of the members needs. Save your bucks and get another lens... Like the 70-200 2.8. or the 24-70 2.8. If your on a FF camera it would be questionable if you even need a 16-35 with the 24-70.
The portrait below was taken with the 16-35. I did it for the effect and because I could. Focal length was around 24mm and corrected slightly in post. To see the larger version(for details) you can visit my Street B&W Gallery on my website.
I was only about a foot from this guys face with this lens. Taken at F5.6
RUss
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These are excellent photos with that lens, actually I would never have guessed they were shot with a wide angle. Portraiture is my favorite thing, mainly glamour, just don't have the opportunity to do that type of work, so I mainly shoot kids.
Anyway good advise.
Michael
RixPix wrote:
That's a very nice lens indeed but on a crop sensor it seems like overkill. Are you planning to move to a full frame camera?
Rixpix has it right! That lens (either the 16-35mm or the 17-40mm) is great when used on a full frame sensor body such as on a 5D, 6D or 1DS. If you want ultra wide and have a cropped sensor, look at the Canon 10-22mm. Why? The 10mm becomes 16mm and the 22mm become 35mm. Sort of the same as a 16 -35mm on a full frame (sensor) body. So my thoughts are: stay with a cropped sensor camera, by a Canon, Sigma or Tokina Ultra wide lens and take the left over money and be wise with it. J. Goffe
PalePictures wrote:
This is true. I have never used the lens at F2.8. I have never used the lens below F11!
I like the L build. I like the L coating.(reduces CA).
Russ
I agree. In fact a few posts before this one I said almost the same thing.
jeep_daddy wrote:
If you're going to stick with a crop sensor camera body then I'd recommend the EF-s 10-22mm lens. I have this lens and it's a fine lens. The only drawback is that it can only be used on crop sensor bodies. If you plan to upgrade soon to a full frame 6D, 5D, or 1D body then buy a 16-35mm lens. But you don't have to buy the newest Mark II lens. You can pick up the previous model of 16-35 for about $900 used. Also, if you don't need the fastest lens then you might take a look at the EF 17-40mm F/4 lens. I find that I have never used my ultra wide angle lens wide open. I use it mainly for landscapes at f/16 to f/22
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I have a Tamron 10-24 F3.5-4.5, clear and tack sharp. It does all that I need in a wide angle lens...Norm
PalePictures wrote:
Be sure and use Quote reply when asking questions. I'm guessing you're asking me.
F16. ISO100.. Bright sun on 1. All on a RRS tripod.(super stable).
I did not use mirror lockup.
I do not like to go beyond F16 on this lens. It's real sharp up to that aperture. It is sharp enough at F20. I'm just a little anal about sharpness.
I shoot AV and float the shutter. (Shutter is set by the camera to get the right exposure.)
Thanks for the info. Stunning pictures. I'm thinking this is going to be costing me some money pretty soon.
PaulaBrady wrote:
Any comments on this lens? Thinking seriously about getting one....
I have it, use it, like it, and intend to take it along on a coming trip. It's
a good piece of versatile glass.
PaulaBrady wrote:
Any comments on this lens? Thinking seriously about getting one....
If you can afford the Canon 16-35mm then buy it; the glass is high quality you can't go wrong with this lens and if purchase a Canon FF camera it will fit with no problems as opposed to the EF-s 10-20mm one.
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