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Mar 14, 2013 20:02:54   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
feywon wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Composition leaves something to be desired for my taste and the higher wispier clouds are not as 'in focus' as the lower left one...

But a good start...and i'm with kaz about definition of a photographer...but for a photographer to be an artist that has nothing to do with specifics of equipment or technical jargon...it is in the 'vision', the eye for an image that evokes a feeling...(as all good art of any form does).

The higher clouds are in focus . Thats what they are in real life . Whispier you can see it most sunney days with thoes type clouds . cum. Nimbus.
quote=feywon Composition leaves something to be d... (show quote)


i'm familiar with Nimbus clouds as well as other formations...when i look up at them here they are much sharper than that however thin the wispy tendrils may be.
Unless i've taken my glasses off...
quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Composition leaves s... (show quote)


I have focus issues with my eyes. Bad eyesight compounded with advancing age. What are ya gonna do?!

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Mar 14, 2013 20:03:27   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Composition leaves something to be desired for my taste and the higher wispier clouds are not as 'in focus' as the lower left one...

But a good start...and i'm with kaz about definition of a photographer...but for a photographer to be an artist that has nothing to do with specifics of equipment or technical jargon...it is in the 'vision', the eye for an image that evokes a feeling...(as all good art of any form does).

The higher clouds are in focus . Thats what they are in real life . Whispier you can see it most sunney days with thoes type clouds . cum. Nimbus.
quote=feywon Composition leaves something to be d... (show quote)


i'm familiar with Nimbus clouds as well as other formations...when i look up at
them here they are much sharper than that however thin the wispy tendrils
may be.
Unless i've taken my glasses off...
quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Composition leaves s... (show quote)


The tree is in focus as is the next cloud . So i would presume that the fstop is
set so that every thing from the tree and beyond is clear to infinty
quote=feywon quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Compos... (show quote)


I think so.

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Mar 14, 2013 20:47:32   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
ratzthree wrote:
Hello UHH world! This is my first post/picture. I am an amateur and take pictures for fun. I just got my first DSLR, a Canon T3i (I know, no real photog uses the Rebel series. But I love it!).
What do you think of the pic?


maybe vertical?

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Mar 14, 2013 20:59:50   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
ratzthree wrote:
Hello UHH world! This is my first post/picture. I am an amateur and take pictures for fun. I just got my first DSLR, a Canon T3i (I know, no real photog uses the Rebel series. But I love it!).
What do you think of the pic?


maybe vertical?


Interesting idea! Thanks for looking!

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Mar 14, 2013 21:52:25   #
SENSORLOUPE
 
ratzthree wrote:
SENSORLOUPE wrote:
ratzthree wrote:
Hello UHH world! This is my first post/picture. I am an amateur and take pictures for fun. I just got my first DSLR, a Canon T3i (I know, no real photog uses the Rebel series. But I love it!).
What do you think of the pic?


maybe vertical?


Interesting idea! Thanks for looking!


Sure. I always look both Vert. and Horizontal through the view finder and sometimes take both. I do like the Spiny & squiggly effect against that blue sky. Also with that, you could tip the camera to the rt. or left for something different. Looks fun to work with

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Mar 15, 2013 00:20:47   #
wierdphotoguy Loc: the snow belt in Michigan
 
I think that particular shot would look eerie with side lighting from a full moon. Long expposure on a still night with the moon at a low level to give vertical light streaks. . might even look good with a slight breeze to blur it a little.

You are on the right track; shoot what looks interesting to you and give no thought to whether you keep the picture or trash it later. Stuff like that might make an intersting layer in Photoshop later.

Here's an interesting thing that I like to do: when my camera is languishing in my hands or around my neck because nothing looks very interesting, think of how the world looks from a different perspective. What would a dog see, since they dont see colors? How do things look from knee high where a little kids eyes are? What is no one else looking at? Look for things that look forlorn or happy, things that are out of place, things that are ignored. Shoot the things that are beautiful to you, without worrying how many others will see it the same way you do. A good photographer points out the beauty in every day life that is ignored by many.

The most beautiful pictue I ever took was a child sitting by herself at a picnic table in the shade after playing; she was daydreaming and had a slight smile with a faraway look. I took her pic without disturbing her then watched for a few minutes and wondered what she was thinking about. Every time I looked at that picture it brought me great peace. It has been lost for years now, but I don't need it anymore. Every time I see her (she's my neice) I remember her that day when she was nine years old. That picture meant nothing when I took it; it was a spur of the moment shot. I wasn't even technically well executed, but none of that matters, it was still a great photograph.

I guess the moral of the story is to take photos that mean something to you. If you take photos that mean something to someone else, get paid for them.

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Mar 15, 2013 00:55:16   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
wierdphotoguy wrote:
I think that particular shot would look eerie with side lighting from a full moon. Long expposure on a still night with the moon at a low level to give vertical light streaks. . might even look good with a slight breeze to blur it a little.

You are on the right track; shoot what looks interesting to you and give no thought to whether you keep the picture or trash it later. Stuff like that might make an intersting layer in Photoshop later.

Here's an interesting thing that I like to do: when my camera is languishing in my hands or around my neck because nothing looks very interesting, think of how the world looks from a different perspective. What would a dog see, since they dont see colors? How do things look from knee high where a little kids eyes are? What is no one else looking at? Look for things that look forlorn or happy, things that are out of place, things that are ignored. Shoot the things that are beautiful to you, without worrying how many others will see it the same way you do. A good photographer points out the beauty in every day life that is ignored by many.

The most beautiful pictue I ever took was a child sitting by herself at a picnic table in the shade after playing; she was daydreaming and had a slight smile with a faraway look. I took her pic without disturbing her then watched for a few minutes and wondered what she was thinking about. Every time I looked at that picture it brought me great peace. It has been lost for years now, but I don't need it anymore. Every time I see her (she's my neice) I remember her that day when she was nine years old. That picture meant nothing when I took it; it was a spur of the moment shot. I wasn't even technically well executed, but none of that matters, it was still a great photograph.

I guess the moral of the story is to take photos that mean something to you. If you take photos that mean something to someone else, get paid for them.
I think that particular shot would look eerie with... (show quote)



Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts. I found them to be inspiring. I am really going to think about all of this. Thanks again.

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Mar 15, 2013 07:33:02   #
feywon Loc: south end of the Rockies
 
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Composition leaves something to be desired for my taste and the higher wispier clouds are not as 'in focus' as the lower left one...

But a good start...and i'm with kaz about definition of a photographer...but for a photographer to be an artist that has nothing to do with specifics of equipment or technical jargon...it is in the 'vision', the eye for an image that evokes a feeling...(as all good art of any form does).

The higher clouds are in focus . Thats what they are in real life . Whispier you can see it most sunney days with thoes type clouds . cum. Nimbus.
quote=feywon Composition leaves something to be d... (show quote)


i'm familiar with Nimbus clouds as well as other formations...when i look up at
them here they are much sharper than that however thin the wispy tendrils
may be.
Unless i've taken my glasses off...
quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Composition leaves s... (show quote)


The tree is in focus as is the next cloud . So i would presume that the fstop is
set so that every thing from the tree and beyond is clear to infinty
quote=feywon quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Compos... (show quote)


Presumptions in anything are as risky as assumptions.
The Nimbus clouds are a good deal more distant than the branches, there's a thing called depth of field? From the original post my understanding is that the equipment was pretty basic...and unlikely to have that great a depth of field. But i won't debate it with you...i only know how it appeared to me and my comment as valid as the 'too blue' which i consider a matter of 'taste' some people like a lot of blue. i moved to current home because it affords me a 'big sky' i get more blue than that nearly every day.

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Mar 15, 2013 07:45:12   #
feywon Loc: south end of the Rockies
 
ratzthree wrote:
feywon wrote:
Composition leaves something to be desired for my taste and the higher wispier clouds are not as 'in focus' as the lower left one...

But a good start...and i'm with kaz about definition of a photographer...but for a photographer to be an artist that has nothing to do with specifics of equipment or technical jargon...it is in the 'vision', the eye for an image that evokes a feeling...(as all good art of any form does).


I sometimes forget photography is an art. I get too caught up in the technical side.
Thanks for your insight!
quote=feywon Composition leaves something to be d... (show quote)


If i did not consider it an art i would have no interest in photographing anything but family and pets as keepsakes and maybe objects for insurance purposes, i would not even try to capture the intrigueing and beautiful sights nature has to offer. When still in HS (back in the early 60's) i had a huge 'debate' with an English teacher about it, he stated flatly it was NOT an art...and we were off...i was able to make some points due to two art photographer friends, one of whom's work he'd seen, and my familiarity with professionals who practiced it as an art to get him to concede my point if not whole heartedly agree.

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Mar 15, 2013 07:57:30   #
Treepusher Loc: Kingston, Massachusetts
 
It's an interesting photo, altho it really lacks a main focal point. The suggestion to hang on to it for later use as a layer is an excellent one, as that's exactly what I'd do with it.

Take no belittling of your Rebel, either. It's an excellent camera, and will take you a long way. The photographer makes the camera amazing, not the other way around.

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Mar 15, 2013 13:43:55   #
Bram boy Loc: Vancouver Island B.C. Canada
 
feywon wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Bram boy wrote:
feywon wrote:
Composition leaves something to be desired for my taste and the higher wispier clouds are not as 'in focus' as the lower left one...

But a good start...and i'm with kaz about definition of a photographer...but for a photographer to be an artist that has nothing to do with specifics of equipment or technical jargon...it is in the 'vision', the eye for an image that evokes a feeling...(as all good art of any form does).

The higher clouds are in focus . Thats what they are in real life . Whispier you can see it most sunney days with thoes type clouds . cum. Nimbus.
quote=feywon Composition leaves something to be d... (show quote)


i'm familiar with Nimbus clouds as well as other formations...when i look up at
them here they are much sharper than that however thin the wispy tendrils
may be.
Unless i've taken my glasses off...
quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Composition leaves s... (show quote)


The tree is in focus as is the next cloud . So i would presume that the fstop is
set so that every thing from the tree and beyond is clear to infinty
quote=feywon quote=Bram boy quote=feywon Compos... (show quote)

Presumptions in anything are as risky as assumptions.
The Nimbus clouds are a good deal more distant than the branches, there's a thing called depth of field? From the original post my understanding is that the equipment was pretty basic...and unlikely to have that great a depth of field. But i won't debate it with you...i only know how it appeared to me and my comment as valid as the 'too blue' which i consider a matter of 'taste' some people like a lot of blue. i moved to current home because it affords me a 'big sky' i get more blue than that nearly every day.
quote=Bram boy quote=feywon quote=Bram boy quo... (show quote)


It does not matter how basic the equipment may be f22--f8--f5.6 is the same
On all lenses. We have a sunny day right now same clouds blue sky . And i can see the same thing . With my own eyes right now . If i took a pic right now it would look the same as hers at f22 or set at infinty . Im 71 been doing this since i was 23 . Go look at some clouds on a day like that and tell me you cant see the same thing as in her picture. With your own eyes . Thats all there is to it case closed.

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Mar 16, 2013 07:42:21   #
feywon Loc: south end of the Rockies
 
Let it go fella...

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Mar 16, 2013 07:54:39   #
feywon Loc: south end of the Rockies
 
ratzthree, if i offended you with my remark about focus i do apologize...it was not a 'criticism'...it was merely a distraction to MY eye. i think the comments made by others made a good deal of sense except for the 'too blue'ones. As a person who has lived in areas where low pollution levels mean a more natural sky (often VERY blue) i was tempted to ask what color folks expected the sky to be and were they suggesting you tampered with mother nature's pallette.
The picture is a good start, play with the subjects till you get one you like enough to not if anyone else thinks its 'good'. The sky will be there, the tree will likely be there till some windstorms topples, you will get a new cast of clouds on a frequent basis (depending on your locale)...so have fun with it.

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Mar 17, 2013 17:56:15   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
Treepusher wrote:
It's an interesting photo, altho it really lacks a main focal point. The suggestion to hang on to it for later use as a layer is an excellent one, as that's exactly what I'd do with it.

Take no belittling of your Rebel, either. It's an excellent camera, and will take you a long way. The photographer makes the camera amazing, not the other way around.


Thank you for looking! I've seen your work here on this site, and I value your opinion. (My fave is Portrait of a Royal!)
I do love my Rebel so much!
Thanks for your encouragement!

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Mar 17, 2013 17:59:54   #
ratzthree Loc: Midwestern USA
 
feywon wrote:
ratzthree, if i offended you with my remark about focus i do apologize...it was not a 'criticism'...it was merely a distraction to MY eye. i think the comments made by others made a good deal of sense except for the 'too blue'ones. As a person who has lived in areas where low pollution levels mean a more natural sky (often VERY blue) i was tempted to ask what color folks expected the sky to be and were they suggesting you tampered with mother nature's pallette.
The picture is a good start, play with the subjects till you get one you like enough to not if anyone else thinks its 'good'. The sky will be there, the tree will likely be there till some windstorms topples, you will get a new cast of clouds on a frequent basis (depending on your locale)...so have fun with it.
ratzthree, if i offended you with my remark about ... (show quote)



Oh my! Of course you did not offend me!! I appreciate all the discussions on my pic. It was my first pic- I did not expect any lookers! Plus, I can tell the comments come from compassion and the desire to help me improve. That's why I'm on this site. So no, you didn't offend me. I am excited to post some more photos asap!!
Thanks again!

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