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I can only afford one! 24-70 vs 70-200 2.8 help!
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Mar 11, 2013 21:34:03   #
Nana Jules Loc: Iowa
 
CaptainC wrote:
Consider the 70-200 f/4. One stop slower, but $1000 less and not as heavy.


Can I freeze action in sports with that lens? f/4 as opposed to 2.8

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Mar 11, 2013 21:47:16   #
CaptainC Loc: Colorado, south of Denver
 
Well, that is the issue. You will have to double the ISO to get the same stopping power as the 2.8.

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Mar 12, 2013 03:25:17   #
SharpShooter Loc: NorCal
 
CaptainC wrote:
Well, that is the issue. You will have to double the ISO to get the same stopping power as the 2.8.


Nana, welcome to the Hog. I've shot indoors with a f4 and my hit rate is very low. Lots of good shots missed. There's a reason why the 70-200, 2.8 is the workhorse of the entire news and sporting industry. Plus it takes a multiplier very well if needed for outdoors sports. Some also use 135, f2. They are twice as fast as the zoom and very sharp.
Your 28-200 will take care of your portrait work, along with the 70-200.
Good luck

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Mar 12, 2013 05:31:53   #
dubach
 
i agree with CaptianC, you may not need the 2.8 unless you need to shoot in low light frequently like for weddings. sounds to me like a telephoto will suit your needs better than a wider angle lens for events and portraits.

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Mar 12, 2013 05:34:11   #
Photogdog Loc: New Kensington, PA
 
Nana Jules wrote:
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily devotions!! I have been a follower for well over a year! You have taught me sooooo much. I just got brave enough to sign on.
Now here's my dilemma.. I have a nikon D7000 and I really want a fast lens for both portrait and sports. I can't decide between the 24-70 2.8 (which is what i thought i wanted?) and the 70-200 2.8. I was just reading on another topic today someone saying how portrait needs to be at least 85mm. ???? I mostly just take of my grandchildren and their events!!
I went to our gymnasium and took shots from the top row of bleachers and very rarely did I need over 70mm? I also have a 50mm 1.8 and nikon 18-200 3.5-5.6 lens. In a perfect world I would own both!
:-)
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily... (show quote)


I'd go for the 70-200mm f2.8, no question, especially if you're shooting sports indoors. You'll need the speed and you're probably going to do most of your shooting from the bleachers so you'll need the reach of the longer zoom.

I recntly purchased a Canon EF 70-200mm f4.0 and now I'm having second thoughts that I should have saved up for the f2.8 version with the image stabilization.

Cheap glass is just that, CHEAP glass!

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Mar 12, 2013 05:44:58   #
jeryh Loc: Oxfordshire UK
 
Go for the 24-70 F2.8= it will cover everything you do, and more !

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Mar 12, 2013 06:31:37   #
darren_searle Loc: Brisbane Australia
 
selmslie wrote:
Nana Jules wrote:
... I have a nikon D7000 and I really want a fast lens for both portrait and sports. …

The 70-200 would be best for sports and at its low end good for portraits. But don’t forget, the D7000 turns that into a 105-300 equivalent because it is cropped.

The 85mm you mention is for a head and shoulder portrait with a full frame sensor. For a D7000 that would equate to about a 55mm lens. So the 24-70 (works like 36-105 on the D7000) could also be used for portraits at its high end.
quote=Nana Jules ... I have a nikon D7000 and I r... (show quote)


The 70-200 will be almost unusable for portraits in the average living room on a crop sensor, that's why I purchased the Sigma 50-150mm 2.8, same quality optics as the 70-200 IQ is awesome and very quick focus... Definitely worth atleast taking a look at...

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Mar 12, 2013 06:32:08   #
sueyeisert Loc: New Jersey
 
I think the best advise is to rent the lenses.The weight might be more of a factor than you think.

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Mar 12, 2013 06:51:37   #
sportyman140 Loc: Juliette, GA
 
Nana Jules wrote:
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily devotions!! I have been a follower for well over a year! You have taught me sooooo much. I just got brave enough to sign on.
Now here's my dilemma.. I have a nikon D7000 and I really want a fast lens for both portrait and sports. I can't decide between the 24-70 2.8 (which is what i thought i wanted?) and the 70-200 2.8. I was just reading on another topic today someone saying how portrait needs to be at least 85mm. ???? I mostly just take of my grandchildren and their events!!
I went to our gymnasium and took shots from the top row of bleachers and very rarely did I need over 70mm? I also have a 50mm 1.8 and nikon 18-200 3.5-5.6 lens. In a perfect world I would own both!
:-)
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily... (show quote)

Well I shoot a Canon T3i with Sigma glass, going the Sigma routefor the EX Glass with both the 24-70mm and the 70-200mm is $2205.00 less expensive than the Canon glass.

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Mar 12, 2013 07:19:53   #
Kobuk Loc: Roseville, CA
 
I think you would be most satisfied with the 70-200 I use mine all the time for many different things, its my go to lens.

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Mar 12, 2013 07:51:25   #
elie Loc: France
 
just take a compromise lens 28-200,that is you compromise on quality, but not that much.

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Mar 12, 2013 08:09:12   #
bobmcculloch Loc: NYC, NY
 
Dissenting opinion coming, read a lot of the responses but, the 17-70 Sigma is seldom off my camera, the 55-250 on it even less, I don't do sports, years ago in film days I was a tele guy, now I find I'm tending to go wide instead, both would be handy but if I had to choose one I'd go wide, esp for your interest in portraits, Bob.

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Mar 12, 2013 08:17:31   #
Screamin Scott Loc: Marshfield Wi, Baltimore Md, now Dallas Ga
 
Consider buying used (KEH ) you might be able to swing both...Otherwise the 70-200

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Mar 12, 2013 08:20:00   #
rpavich Loc: West Virginia
 
Nana Jules wrote:
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily devotions!! I have been a follower for well over a year! You have taught me sooooo much. I just got brave enough to sign on.
Now here's my dilemma.. I have a nikon D7000 and I really want a fast lens for both portrait and sports. I can't decide between the 24-70 2.8 (which is what i thought i wanted?) and the 70-200 2.8. I was just reading on another topic today someone saying how portrait needs to be at least 85mm. ???? I mostly just take of my grandchildren and their events!!
I went to our gymnasium and took shots from the top row of bleachers and very rarely did I need over 70mm? I also have a 50mm 1.8 and nikon 18-200 3.5-5.6 lens. In a perfect world I would own both!
:-)
First off..I want to thank all of you for my daily... (show quote)


Hmmm....you got good CLOSE FRAME FILLING SHOTS from the bleachers?

Please post one...I know that I use a 135mm in gyms and cannot do that; I have to get near the mat to get close...not dissing you...just surprised and seeing your shots might help us give you good feedback on lens choice.

If it were me...and my choice was portraits and sports...I'd go for the 70-200.

Post some shots so we can see what you are doing...ok?

PS: What lens do you currently own?

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Mar 12, 2013 08:30:13   #
CanonShot Loc: Lancaster County, PA
 
70-200 2.8 will put you in the "smile" zone for both portraits and sports. Pay the money, get the best from your equipment and yourself.

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