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Jan 3, 2013 11:04:42   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Does anyone from Texas know what is required or should be required by me to photograph a model under 18. an escort for sure but should a parent sign a release?

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Jan 3, 2013 11:40:59   #
Wahawk Loc: NE IA
 
jtipps wrote:
Does anyone from Texas know what is required or should be required by me to photograph a model under 18. an escort for sure but should a parent sign a release?


DEFINITELY get a release signed by a parent!! And an escort/chapperone is also a must!!

Google "Model Release for Minor" and you should find some good samples.

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Jan 3, 2013 12:53:52   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Thank you.

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Jan 4, 2013 07:30:54   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
jtipps wrote:
Does anyone from Texas know what is required or should be required by me to photograph a model under 18. an escort for sure but should a parent sign a release?


Absolutely!! Unfortunately, I know someone that is in deep doo- doo because of not having either a release or a chaperone. He was arrested and will be going to trail soon.

Blake

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Jan 4, 2013 08:36:05   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
Thank you Blake.

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Jan 4, 2013 08:40:32   #
Georgia Peddler Loc: Brunswick, GA
 
What are you thinking? Definitely a model release and a parent present during shooting.
You definitely do not want a "He said - She said" situation arising from this shoot and you with no clear position.

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Jan 4, 2013 09:18:20   #
jtipps Loc: Dallas
 
What am I thinking??? Having never done it that is why I posted the question, don't respond like I am a dumb ass. Having this forum to ask these kind of questions are what is good about it, don't discourage people from asking.
Georgia Peddler wrote:
What are you thinking? Definitely a model release and a parent present during shooting.
You definitely do not want a "He said - She said" situation arising from this shoot and you with no clear position.

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Jan 4, 2013 09:35:44   #
evee999 Loc: London, Ontario, Canada
 
I agree, jtipps, The forum stresses, there are no crazy questions, that's how we learn on this great forum. Keep on shooting and ask questions....

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Jan 4, 2013 09:47:31   #
Blake Loc: Alfred NY
 
jtipps wrote:
What am I thinking??? Having never done it that is why I posted the question, don't respond like I am a dumb ass. Having this forum to ask these kind of questions are what is good about it, don't discourage people from asking.
Georgia Peddler wrote:
What are you thinking? Definitely a model release and a parent present during shooting.
You definitely do not want a "He said - She said" situation arising from this shoot and you with no clear position.


It was an excellent question. The dumb question is the one that is not asked. Please dismiss the rude replays from some here that forget or forgot when they where first starting in photography.

Blake

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Jan 4, 2013 10:36:06   #
billybob40
 
If you photography under 18 you better have the parent sign a release if the images are sold. Be safe anyway.

This may help...
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=model+release&c=apps

Over the last few issues, we’ve talked about selling photos without a model release as editorial stock.

But WHY do you need a model release the rest of the time?

Think about it this way...

Imagine you take a photo of a person jogging in a park.

Someone at a big shoe company buys it and puts it into their next big ad campaign.

Soon the photo of the guy in the park, with a logo from the big shoe company on it, is seen on billboards across the country.

Then let’s say that the person in the photo happens to be a professional athlete, who’s sponsored by the OTHER big shoe company. Think he’ll keep his sponsorship? Probably not.

Thing is, stock photos are meant to sell something.

You never know who will buy them. So whenever you take a photo of a person, you need their permission before you can sell the photo as commercial stock.

And it’s a good idea to explain to that person that their photo could show up anywhere.

Of course, many people find it fun to see their likeness in ads. I’ve spotted some of my self-portraits in funny places online, such as here on this nutrition blog.

One way to sell people photos without a model release is to take photos that don’t include the person’s face, or anything else to identify them (like a tattoo on their hand).

Here’s an example that Breakfast Stock Club Premium Member, Damon Yancy, is selling on Dreamstime:
Also...
http://www.danheller.com/model-release.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=fvwp&NR=1&v=mrHA7gfb584

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=2QJe9htVjOE&feature=endscreen



http://www.modelingshoot.com/

http://www.howtobeamodel.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGfiAbUeLhw&feature=endscreen&NR=1

http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/glossary-of-modeling-terms-and-phrases-a-z/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/what-are-the-different-types-of-modeling/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/who-should-be-a-model/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/its-not-enough-to-be-pretty-if-you-want-to-model/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/do-i-need-to-take-classes-to-be-a-model/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/location-location-location-you-model-where-you-live/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/what-is-too-old-too-short-or-too-heavy-to-model/
http://www.joeedelman.com/modeling-industry/model-branding-its-not-just-for-cattle/
http://www.joeedelman.com/video-portfolio/
VEDIOS http://www.joeedelman.com/video-portfolio/

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Jan 4, 2013 11:13:39   #
Georgia Peddler Loc: Brunswick, GA
 
I didn't say anything whatsoever about you being a dumbass. I simply asked the question, "What are you thinking?" As you implied yourself, you wanted to know what "we" all thought about your inquiry. As you will note from practically every response given to your inquiry, the simple answer was DEFINITELY GET A RELEASE AND HAVE A PARENT PRESENT.
Sorry to offend and so sorry that you yourself made the "dumbass" insinuation, but hey, as Ole Claude used to say, "If the shoe fits, wear it" eh?
Good shooting and best wishes for a successful New Year.

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Jan 4, 2013 12:45:15   #
texaseve Loc: TX, NC and NH
 
The shoe did not fit Peddler. You were just rude.

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Jan 4, 2013 13:05:08   #
Georgia Peddler Loc: Brunswick, GA
 
I give up. Sorry for all of the heartache and pain and anguish I caused for my posting. What are you thinking? was my reality based question and I stand by it. Surely anyone would realize that especially in today's over-litigious environment that anything whatsoever to do with an under-age child (especially in a photographic situation) would be treated with the utmost straight-forward attitude possible. My question, "What are you thinking?" was to simply enforce the pure and simple reality of what the terribly negative outcome could be if not handled correctly. No where did I put anyone down or insinuate any lack of knowledge, education, social status, race, etc. etc. I simply asked a question and followed with an explanation to a question asked by a fellow UHH'er. Incidentally, almost every other response mirrored my response and was even confirmed and agreed to by the poster. My "What are you thinking?" elicited many like replies and I stand by my posting. I would consider it foolish on any photographer's part not to see immediately that that is a terrible road to go down. The consequenses are almost certain to be terrible, unforgiveable, and career ending if even the slightest iota of impropriety was suggested on the part of a photographer. I am sure that little Susie would answer any question asked by her parents with a reply that satisfied their desired outcome.
As I said, Good Shooting and sorry that I offended your thin skin. I meant no ill will, I just felt it important enough of a question to answer with "What are you thinking?" to jolt you into reality. You would never be able to recover from the negative ( and potentially legalities) of getting into such a situation as you were asking about.
I stand by my post.

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Jan 4, 2013 15:22:07   #
Danilo Loc: Las Vegas
 
The topic of minor models is, as you see, a "hot button" today. If I were to embark on your project , jtipps, I would try to also shoot one or two photos of the model with the parent/chaperone, just to have. Might be a great photo, too!
Good luck! I hope everyone has a great time!

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Jan 4, 2013 17:05:41   #
Brian46 Loc: Standish,Maine
 
Danilo wrote:
The topic of minor models is, as you see, a "hot button" today. If I were to embark on your project , jtipps, I would try to also shoot one or two photos of the model with the parent/chaperone, just to have. Might be a great photo, too!
Good luck! I hope everyone has a great time!


:thumbup:

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