Random Thoughts
Jan 2, 2013 06:43:24 #
I live in a country where law-abiding no criminal record people are not allowed to carry guns of any kind. Even state police agents need a permit from federal police to carry a defensive firearm. To own and keep a gun at home is nearly impossible in practical terms. Among other things, the citizen must have a "reasonable reason" for owing a gun. ('reasonable reason' does not include home and family defense from sociopaths)
This did not reduce the incidence of deaths by guns, it indeed is growing, and fast.
When I was a boy, at the 50s of the past century, at least 50% of law-abiding citizens carried personal firearms
as naturally as ties (necklaces?) It was a very polite society, and I don´t remind any shooting until I was 14. (the one shooting I mention was justified self-defense from a passing-by would-be raper. Even a .32S&W 3" barrel in the hands of a lady can be effective.)
This did not reduce the incidence of deaths by guns, it indeed is growing, and fast.
When I was a boy, at the 50s of the past century, at least 50% of law-abiding citizens carried personal firearms
as naturally as ties (necklaces?) It was a very polite society, and I don´t remind any shooting until I was 14. (the one shooting I mention was justified self-defense from a passing-by would-be raper. Even a .32S&W 3" barrel in the hands of a lady can be effective.)
Jan 2, 2013 06:50:15 #
Even if America was to ban guns (or make gun ownership illegal) do you think the criminals would turn in their weapons? Only law abiding citizens would turn in weapons and criminals would have a field day.
JR1 wrote:
more carp anything to justify a moron owning a gun
Jan 2, 2013 07:00:16 #
Sac-Jack wrote:
I was talking to a group of people at my favorite ... (show quote)
I'm not sure I get your point. The drugs you mention are already illegal and guns are so tightly controlled that it is a pain in the butt to buy one any more. Some states are legalizing Marijuana for "medical" purposes but I have never seen anyone who was only smoking MJ get violent. Truth be told I would rather be around a bunch of pot smokers than people drinking alcohol in any form.
The last time I tried to buy a gun it took more paper work and time than it did to buy my car.
Jan 2, 2013 07:17:40 #
Perhaps we should all live in padded cells and be attended to by robots - I don't think robots are on the 'to ban' list yet!
Jan 2, 2013 07:18:52 #
ted45 wrote:
quote=Sac-Jack I was talking to a group of people... (show quote)
Does it depend on what state you live in? I remember one post saying you can purchase guns at Walmart!
Jan 2, 2013 07:26:54 #
Crwiwy wrote:
quote=ted45 quote=Sac-Jack I was talking to a gr... (show quote)
Yes, you can purchase guns at some Walmarts. The last time I tried to buy a rifle it took almost thirty minutes to complete the paper work. You must give them everything known about you and your background. If you want a hand gun you have to do the paper work and come back three days later to pick it up. You can't just pay for it and go like the press wants you to believe.
Jan 2, 2013 07:32:01 #
ted45 wrote:
quote=Crwiwy quote=ted45 quote=Sac-Jack I was t... (show quote)
That is one consolation - hopefully they check personal details as well as our banks do.
Jan 2, 2013 07:43:23 #
We would have to ban kitchen knives as well, also bricks, stray pieces of plumbing , fallen tree branched, rocks, the list is too long...Bob.
Jan 2, 2013 07:47:27 #
Each state has different laws, but there is a federal check when you purchase a weapon. A rifle can be purchased right away but a hand gun requires a 2 week waiting period. New Jersey requires you to have a gun carry permit to get a weapon and to get a carry permit you have to apply to your local police department fill out forms, be finger printed and get a background check from the federal government which takes a couple of weeks. After you have a carry permit and you go to a store to purchase a weapon you are required to fill out more forms, show the carry permit and then the sales person calls the state police who can accept or deny your right to purchase the weapon. What is not covered under the law is how you billet the weapon in your home. If the weapon is not secured properly anyone (including children or mentally unfit) can get the weapon and do harm.
Crwiwy wrote:
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Jan 2, 2013 08:03:03 #
jjwright71
Loc: Lubbock,Tx
JR1 wrote:
more mdeia "carp" ,and yep i am one of them so run away ,run away,"BOO !!",HAR !more carp anything to justify a moron owning a gun
Jan 2, 2013 08:11:36 #
gphotography wrote:
Marijuana kills? Since when? Can you name one death in the history of the world caused by marijuana? Your another one of those brain washed people.
Maybe not but the stuff obviously affects brains as there appears to be a 'user' who does not know the difference between "your"' and "you're".
Jan 2, 2013 08:33:28 #
Then we can look at the First Amendment as only applying to means of communicating that were in existance in the 1700's. Think of those implications.
MT Shooter wrote:
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Jan 2, 2013 08:36:43 #
jjwright71
Loc: Lubbock,Tx
jjwright71 wrote:
PS ,my name is MO not ron ,pendejo caca!!,HARJR1 wrote:
more mdeia "carp" ,and yep i am one of them so run away ,run away,"BOO !!",HAR !more carp anything to justify a moron owning a gun
Jan 2, 2013 08:52:46 #
Remus wrote:
As an ignorant Brit doesn't your constitution only give the right to bear arms if you are in a militia?
Yup. That's the only way a reasonable person can read the sentence, but no one said the Supreme Court of the United States was reasonable.
Or that they could read, for that matter. :thumbup:
Jan 2, 2013 09:35:32 #
gphotography wrote:
Marijuana kills? Since when? Can you name one death in the history of the world caused by marijuana? Your another one of those brain washed people.
You are kidding, right?
Thousands of deaths can be blamed on our high (excuse the pun) demand for and consumption of marijuana in the various turf wars for control of its distribution. And I watched the final breaths of a young man burned to death after a car accident caused by impairment from smoking marijuana, and pulled two dead kids from a car wrecked by their impaired mother, high on Marijuana. I could name many more but I suspect you have marijuana justified in your mind and won't hear it.
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