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Apr 30, 2024 16:19:42   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Trump brought us COVID. Over 1 million Americans died. Trump is the deadliest President ever to inflict his ego on the United States.


Indict, convict, and punish the murderer.


The Chinese gave us COVID. President Trump got bad advice from Fauci and the CDC. Then the medical community in general got caught using methods that weren't very effective. Things like the N95 masks could only filter out a % of the tiny COVID viruses.* President Trump did fast track research for a vaccine which the drug companies rushed and short cut testing (under pressure from Gvt, Congress and Media among others) so we ended up with an "almost, sorta" vaccine that didn't prevent but at least did make most COVID cases less severe.

*I have asthma and bought a 3M Industrial/Lab grade 1.2 face respirator mask with an N100 filter pack set, and even they are only 99.97% effective against COVID sized viruses. I went to a medical appointment at Kaiser wearing it and several people asked me about it and how much it was. My next appointment a week later I saw some of the Doctors, Nurses etc. walking around wearing them. One doctor had the full face version and another had the version with the filter in a canister on your belt and a battery powered fan to suck air through the filter and them up a hose to the mask.

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Apr 30, 2024 16:22:55   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Kraken wrote:
A lot of innocent people get put on trial, But Trump definitely ain't one of them.


And you know this how? Or is it just what you want to believe because you don't like President Trump?

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Apr 30, 2024 16:29:55   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
robertjerl wrote:
And you know this how? Or is it just what you want to believe because you don't like President Trump?


What is the matter with you people, if I had never seen

Trump before today I would have pegged him right off

the bat as some kind of snake oil peddler. He just has

the look of a slimy crook. Why can't you see that?

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Apr 30, 2024 16:36:10   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
robertjerl wrote:
A lot of innocent people get put on trial. That is what the trial is for, to find out if they are guilty or innocent.
As an alternate juror I watched a traffic case end in less than one hour when the Defense called a CHP officer to testify for the truck driver. 1. the rookie city cop cited the wrong vehicle code 2. even if it had been the right code number what the driver did wasn't illegal on that road and 3. the road in question was CHP territory, not city police territory. The Judge dropped/dismissed the case and advised the young cop to take a refresher traffic code course.
A lot of innocent people get put on trial. That i... (show quote)


I took a course in criminal law in High School. Part of that was we got to attend court for trial proceedings. The case we saw involved a cemetery that was double and triple parking those interred. Obviously this was a major scandal as it essentially means that the plot is sold to more than one person and yet they all plan on staying there.

A decade or more ago I was on the jury for a case involving a mafioso and a lawsuit against an insurance company. The long and the short of it was the gentleman purchased a vacation property that he decided/neglected to pay to insure which is breaking the law in this state. Several months after the insurance ran out we had a hurricane that floated the house off the pilings it was sitting on. He was still trying to get the insurance company to pay and claim that the wind did it. A retired judge lived in the neighborhood and took pictures at the peak of the storm of homes in the area, including this one. The water level had gone past the midpoint of the first floor windows (Cape style house). The mafioso moved items from downstairs to the upstairs (plates, silverware, pots and pans) to prevent them from getting "damaged" but left his TV and VCR, rugs and furniture downstairs. In other words he moved stuff that could easily get wet and not be ruined instead of the things that water would destroy.

Bottom line is that the jury found for the insurance company.

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Apr 30, 2024 16:54:36   #
hondo812 Loc: Massachusetts
 
Kraken wrote:
What is the matter with you people, if I had never seen

Trump before today I would have pegged him right off

the bat as some kind of snake oil peddler. He just has

the look of a slimy crook. Why can't you see that?


Perhaps, but your statement neglects to factor in Biden. Biden is an imbecile. HRC is a flawed individual but I had no doubt that she was very bright. Evil? Probably. But genuinely stupid? No. Is there someone that is conceivably dumber than Biden? Of course! Look no further than his running mate that is still wiping some Willie Brown off her chin.

What is becoming more obvious is that the puppet masters are not going to let a smart, articulate, uncompromised, individual make it to the ballot. RFK Jr is infinitely more articulate than either Biden or Trump but he's not beholden to the puppet masters and all he really does is divide the vote further.

So, those are the choices.

Dopey Joe and his disastrous policies.

Trump and boatloads of baggage.

RFK Jr. and ...well all I can say is that I am from Massachusetts and I think we need to find another clan to get presidential timber.

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Apr 30, 2024 17:26:10   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
hondo812 wrote:
Perhaps, but your statement neglects to factor in Biden. Biden is an imbecile. HRC is a flawed individual but I had no doubt that she was very bright. Evil? Probably. But genuinely stupid? No. Is there someone that is conceivably dumber than Biden? Of course! Look no further than his running mate that is still wiping some Willie Brown off her chin.

What is becoming more obvious is that the puppet masters are not going to let a smart, articulate, uncompromised, individual make it to the ballot. RFK Jr is infinitely more articulate than either Biden or Trump but he's not beholden to the puppet masters and all he really does is divide the vote further.

So, those are the choices.

Dopey Joe and his disastrous policies.

Trump and boatloads of baggage.

RFK Jr. and ...well all I can say is that I am from Massachusetts and I think we need to find another clan to get presidential timber.
Perhaps, but your statement neglects to factor in ... (show quote)


I have no use for Biden either but he doesn't look

like a slimy crook, he is just too old for the job.

You know my question was about Trump and has

nothing to do with Biden so why can't any of you righties answer it?

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Apr 30, 2024 17:33:34   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
hondo812 wrote:
I took a course in criminal law in High School. Part of that was we got to attend court for trial proceedings. The case we saw involved a cemetery that was double and triple parking those interred. Obviously this was a major scandal as it essentially means that the plot is sold to more than one person and yet they all plan on staying there.

A decade or more ago I was on the jury for a case involving a mafioso and a lawsuit against an insurance company. The long and the short of it was the gentleman purchased a vacation property that he decided/neglected to pay to insure which is breaking the law in this state. Several months after the insurance ran out we had a hurricane that floated the house off the pilings it was sitting on. He was still trying to get the insurance company to pay and claim that the wind did it. A retired judge lived in the neighborhood and took pictures at the peak of the storm of homes in the area, including this one. The water level had gone past the midpoint of the first floor windows (Cape style house). The mafioso moved items from downstairs to the upstairs (plates, silverware, pots and pans) to prevent them from getting "damaged" but left his TV and VCR, rugs and furniture downstairs. In other words he moved stuff that could easily get wet and not be ruined instead of the things that water would destroy.

Bottom line is that the jury found for the insurance company.
I took a course in criminal law in High School. Pa... (show quote)


That's not a worry. The Trump's are banned from cemetery and undertaking operations in the state of NY.

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Apr 30, 2024 17:38:08   #
jcboy3
 
robertjerl wrote:
The Chinese gave us COVID. President Trump got bad advice from Fauci and the CDC. Then the medical community in general got caught using methods that weren't very effective. Things like the N95 masks could only filter out a % of the tiny COVID viruses.* President Trump did fast track research for a vaccine which the drug companies rushed and short cut testing (under pressure from Gvt, Congress and Media among others) so we ended up with an "almost, sorta" vaccine that didn't prevent but at least did make most COVID cases less severe.

*I have asthma and bought a 3M Industrial/Lab grade 1.2 face respirator mask with an N100 filter pack set, and even they are only 99.97% effective against COVID sized viruses. I went to a medical appointment at Kaiser wearing it and several people asked me about it and how much it was. My next appointment a week later I saw some of the Doctors, Nurses etc. walking around wearing them. One doctor had the full face version and another had the version with the filter in a canister on your belt and a battery powered fan to suck air through the filter and them up a hose to the mask.
The Chinese gave us COVID. President Trump got ba... (show quote)


Trump did nothing for months, but claim it was going to go away. Instead of cranking up mask manufacturing; instead of federalizing mask import; all he did was fiddle. By the time the feds got anywhere near their act together, it was too late.


Without ramped up mask production, Fauci and CDC were trying to preserve existing mask supply for the medical/EMT community.


It's all Trumps fault.

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Apr 30, 2024 17:41:23   #
Texcaster Loc: Queensland
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Trump did nothing for months, but claim it was going to go away. Instead of cranking up mask manufacturing; instead of federalizing mask import; all he did was fiddle. By the time the feds got anywhere near their act together, it was too late.


Without ramped up mask production, Fauci and CDC were trying to preserve existing mask supply for the medical/EMT community.


It's all Trumps fault.


The 'stable genius' politicized a national health crisis!! Who does that??

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Apr 30, 2024 18:31:22   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Trump did nothing for months, but claim it was going to go away. Instead of cranking up mask manufacturing; instead of federalizing mask import; all he did was fiddle. By the time the feds got anywhere near their act together, it was too late.


Without ramped up mask production, Fauci and CDC were trying to preserve existing mask supply for the medical/EMT community.


It's all Trumps fault.


All crock of BS. When Trump placed the China travel ban early on, you people on the left were furious and called him xenophobic and racist. Dr. Fauci said that Trump did everything he’d asked him to do.

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Apr 30, 2024 18:44:42   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
All crock of BS. When Trump placed the China travel ban early on, you people on the left were furious and called him xenophobic and racist. Dr. Fauci said that Trump did everything he’d asked him to do.


Where do you come up with this crap, I never heard of any such thing?

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Apr 30, 2024 20:33:27   #
jcboy3
 
Racmanaz wrote:
All crock of BS. When Trump placed the China travel ban early on, you people on the left were furious and called him xenophobic and racist. Dr. Fauci said that Trump did everything he’d asked him to do.


Nope. Trump is to blame.

https://inthesetimes.com/article/donald-trump-covid-pandemic-deaths-masks-vaccines

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Apr 30, 2024 22:20:34   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
Kraken wrote:
Where do you come up with this crap, I never heard of any such thing?


It’s actually a fact it’s not my fault that you’re Uninformed. It goes to show how much of a low IQ you have

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Apr 30, 2024 22:23:05   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 


Inthesetimes.com???? Lefty BS fake news source. Who’s personally responsible for the millions that were killed by Covid outside of the US? Oh let me guess Donald Trump lol

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Apr 30, 2024 22:41:11   #
jcboy3
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Inthesetimes.com???? Lefty BS fake news source. Who’s personally responsible for the millions that were killed by Covid outside of the US? Oh let me guess Donald Trump lol


You believe in God, so who knows what other lunacy you subscribe to.

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