Coming OUT where, Trump's response team had their hands tied etc. Maybe out Uranus. Every politician in the country made mistakes regarding Covid including numerous Democratic assholes. Yet you ONLY blame Trump. Pretty convenient especially when you are doing your best through Kangaroo Courts, lying corrupt Left Wingers just like you who keep pushing the bullshit on a daily basis.

Wasn't it you who a few days ago stated more people died under Trump than Biden? It would seem, look it up, over 600,000 more people died under Biden's Reign of Terror than under Trump. People are still dying of Covid. Here is a clue. Trump is no longer the President.

Who is the LIAR now? Looks like it would be YOU on the Left.

Dennis

As President Trump is not an MD and most especially not a Virologist he was following the advice of the government and other "experts", like Fauci and the CDC among others.
They were the ones who didn't quite figure out what to do.

Then there is the nature of the American People. We don't like being told what to do by"experts" or politicians. We don't like to be restricted in our movements and we are probably the most mobile nation on Earth. We are constantly on the move for work, shopping, just for fun and more Americans both numerically and % wise move addresses per year than anyone else. Not only that, but we also like to congregate for meeting, movies, sports etc. etc.
All of which tends to negate the anti-COVID measures if people were following them in the first place. Hell we even had door to door sales people coming around during COVID - we put a sign on our front door stating we would not be answering the door.

As to our large numbers of deaths during COVID, well take all the above and combine it with our nearly 340million (#3 behind China and India) population and our nearly 100% coverage of statistics and it is no wonder our reported deaths were so high.* China I am at least 99% certain did not give accurate numbers just for politics sake and India has many millions of people living in small villages and city slums who seldom interact with the government or report deaths, they just have a family service and bury them. Many people still believe that the dead should just be dropped in one of the sacred rivers so even if the government came by to check on the deaths from COVID there are no graves, just a body that drifted away on the river and was eaten by water life. So their numbers were probably even less accurate than China.

And then there are parts of Africa, parts of Asia & remote areas of So America etc. etc. etc. I saw articles of entire villages in Africa being a ghost town, no one to count the dead and when the government checked they just dug trenches with a bulldozer, dropped all the bodies in, burned the buildings to hopefully kill the virus and moved on down the road to check the next village. I saw similar things in Vietnam during the Tet Offensive, bulldozers and back hoes digging large holes in the cemetery next to our base and then trucks of bodies in piles pulling in and soldiers tossing them in until the hole was full, and a dozer pushed dirt over them then dug the next hole. That happened several times a day for a couple of weeks. So if you tell me it didn't happen in many places during COVID I will call you ignorant if I am in a nice mood and a liar if I am in a bad mood.

*Remember all the reports that many places deliberately over counted COVID deaths for benefits and aid? Someone comes into the ER/Trauma Center/Morgue dead from a traffic accident, heart attack etc. etc. and they also had COVID = just put them on the Covid death list. It was a lot less work for the severely over worked medical staffs. Who were already running to another in the endless line of patients or bodies coming in. No string of lab tests to determine the cause of death, no need for an autopsy etc. etc. just put another name on the COVID list. Reportedly that happened in a lot of places around the world. Too over worked to test and make accurate records.

I just mentioned to Rac, read The Premonition which advises the course of events. Cuomo and Newsom both blew it, but Trump knew how virulent the disease was and had spreader events. He admitted he downplayed the disease. He had the knowledge first and pretty much ignored it until it got bad. The Dems acerbated the contagion, but the first fault was Trump.

There were pandemic plans in place, the best being the Bush plan imo; he ignored them. Had Trump followed them, the damage could have been reduced. Example - people were restricted coming into the country, but were unrestricted in dispersing to other areas while ill. That spread the disease as well.

In lieu of an antiviral or vacine, isolate to prevent the spread. If you read either the Bush or Obama plans, that's what it tells you - it didn't happen.

Possibly one of your most idiotic statements yet, Covid is an infectious disease. Trump mishandled Covid's entry in the US - failing to institute pandemic protocols that both the Bush and Obama administrations had put together. Remember his "One day it will just go away;" it hasn't. He held inside rallies that were spreaders and admitted later that he knew the disease was highly infectious. Estimates that I previously cited in this forum stated that 30,000+ individuals caught Covid from these rallies and at least 700 died. Look up the legal term "depraved indifference," you probably won't find it on Instagram.

Then you have Trump while he has Covid insisting that his Secret Service guys give him a ride - each one of them caught it.

School teachers had to tell students, particularly those mentally challenged, not to ingest bleach as it would harm them - how do I know that? My oldest daughter is a special ed teacher.

Once the genii is out of the bottle, it's the fault of the guy that opened the bottle in this case, Trump. Do you honestly believe that while one guy leaves that the germs stop spreading? Wait for the new guy, then start up again. Moronic, Rac.

Suggest you go and read about how infectious disease work. Also try to pick up a book on Logic for Dummies. Did you get your GED at the same time as Boebert?

You might recall Trump tried to restrict people from coming into the country but was called a Racist by the Left. You might also recall America is a FREE country. Nobody gets to tell We the People where they can go else We the People will adamantly tell that politician where he/she can go. Americans are not stupid people. Most self limited where they went, wore somewhat appropriate masks and did their best to keep themselves clean of germs through hand sanitizers etc. Truth IS nobody knew what the long term effects were. You might also recall with the pandemic still in full swing POS Biden invited every immigrant in the world to just, Come on Over. Not one of those people was required to be vaccinated, nobody was checked for the virus, just Millions of people came across our Southern border and still are. You would have to look up exact words but Mayorkas was asked about the illegal aliens not being vaccinated and he pretty much said they don't count. Did I say Millions?

You might also recall POS Biden and even more POS Harris both saying they would not take the virus because it was initiated by President Trump. Remember that? I do. What a way to run a country eh? Here President Trump has the vaccines approved early and yet the Left Wingers in charge of America say they won't take it.

You on the Left continue to blame President Trump for everything negative when the Left shares their own package of negativity and misdeeds from start to finish through the pandemic.

Dennis

Usual Rac BS Deflect, call the person a lefty, or a liar. Reality is neither left or right.

I'll try to make it simple for you - think of contagion as a row of upright dominoes maybe a thousand or so. Trump allows the first to fall, then it hits the next and so on; Biden comes in and the only way to stop the dominoes from falling is to push the next ones out of the way. Unfortunately, the only way to stop viruses from spreading is isolation, antivirals or vaccinations. Only Covid is even more virulent, if a person withCovid walks in a room, three people catch it and so on So instead of one line of dominoes, it goes to three, and each of those go to 3.

Fauci had to go along with Trump or be fired, same with the rest of the group. If you disagree with Trump, even if you are right, you are gone. Plus he should have retired a long time ago. Suggest you read The Premonition which gives the story of how public health officials tried to tell the politicians to prepare. If the big words are beyond you, maybe you can get someone to read it to you. It won't be on Instagram.

No, trump absolutely ignored the early warnings he got as early as December of 2019.

By the time trump finally assembled his Covid response team, the "horse had already bolted out of the barn" so to say.

The mistakes trump made in not taking corrective measures after FAILING a disaster recovery exercise in 2018 and dissolving the pandemic response team contributed hugely to trump's disastrous Covid-19 Pandemic failure.

It's coming out that trump's Covid-19 response team had their hands tied in what they were able to say publicly, or risk being let go by trump.

Remember that trump didn't want testing done at the beginning of the Pandemic, just to keep the number of confirmed cases low!

Hi Dennis - just got home a bit ago - one of my granddaughter's birthday.

Anyway, here's your answers:
Trump discussing bleach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zicGxU5MfwE

The look on his medical advisor Dr Birx’s face can be seen here:
https://www.google.com/search?q=youtube+trump+bleach+dr&client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=b96cacdcca2a1d0b&sxsrf=ACQVn0-BM_3aw8iBSSMpSBeLnn2xQA1EZA%3A1714343813103&ei=hc8uZrD0Bcik5NoPr4G7UA&ved=0ahUKEwjwyoKw_OWFAxVIElkFHa_ADgoQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=youtube+trump+bleach+dr&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAiF3lvdXR1YmUgdHJ1bXAgYmxlYWNoIGRySPwYUIsJWN0NcAF4AJABAJgBUaABpAKqAQE0uAEDyAEA-AEBmAIAoAIAmAMAiAYBkgcAoAe0AQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:ad4a48fe,vid:d57zJr82dhQ,st:0

Rally infections – Stanford University research
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/31/coronavirus-trump-campaign-rallies-led-to-30000-cases-stanford-researchers-say.html

Trump knew COVID was highly contagious – he admitted that later.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-told-bob-woodward-he-knew-february-covid-19-was-n1239658
So why would anyone if they knew the disease was highly contagious hold rallies indoors?

In answer to your other questions if you want to really understand without the political BS that reverberates through this forum – take the time to read The Premonition which outlines the colossal screw up by Trump, Newsome in California and others in dealing with COVID.

I deal in facts and statistics Dennis, I have an extremely low opinion of all politicians not just Trump. For whatever its worth, Trump is neither a Republican or a Democrat – he tells a good story, but he is strictly only interested in his own agenda. I have the same opinion of Trump as General Kelly - he worked daily with Trump.