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Apr 24, 2024 12:34:48   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
rwoodvira wrote:
Possibly one of your most idiotic statements yet, Covid is an infectious disease. Trump mishandled Covid's entry in the US - failing to institute pandemic protocols that both the Bush and Obama administrations had put together. Remember his "One day it will just go away;" it hasn't. He held inside rallies that were spreaders and admitted later that he knew the disease was highly infectious. Estimates that I previously cited in this forum stated that 30,000+ individuals caught Covid from these rallies and at least 700 died. Look up the legal term "depraved indifference," you probably won't find it on Instagram.

Then you have Trump while he has Covid insisting that his Secret Service guys give him a ride - each one of them caught it.

School teachers had to tell students, particularly those mentally challenged, not to ingest bleach as it would harm them - how do I know that? My oldest daughter is a special ed teacher.

Once the genii is out of the bottle, it's the fault of the guy that opened the bottle in this case, Trump. Do you honestly believe that while one guy leaves that the germs stop spreading? Wait for the new guy, then start up again. Moronic, Rac.

Suggest you go and read about how infectious disease work. Also try to pick up a book on Logic for Dummies. Did you get your GED at the same time as Boebert?
Possibly one of your most idiotic statements yet, ... (show quote)


How is it ONLY Trump gets blamed? How about Andrew Cuomo is never blamed, how about Fauci himself who kept switching ideas, one mask then two, then masks don't really work and all the while he was more than likely part of the group who started Covid to begin with. How about Governor Gretchen Wittmere? How about any number of people who gave wrong information because nobody had any idea of how to deal with a disease of this type. Sure there is more than enough blame to go around a few times and yet it is ONLY Trump who receives blame. WTF is that? Trump is the one who got the ball rolling on vaccines for America. Trump is the one person who wanted to limit who comes into America from other countries and was called a Racist for doing so. How many foreigners brought Covid right into America with them? How many illegal aliens crossed our border carrying Covid as well as numerous diseases America had not seen seen in decades. Not one illegal alien was asked about getting vaccinated and I think it was Mayorcas who said they were not screened. How stupid is that?

Dennis

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Apr 24, 2024 14:02:00   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How is it ONLY Trump gets blamed? How about Andrew Cuomo is never blamed, how about Fauci himself who kept switching ideas, one mask then two, then masks don't really work and all the while he was more than likely part of the group who started Covid to begin with. How about Governor Gretchen Wittmere? How about any number of people who gave wrong information because nobody had any idea of how to deal with a disease of this type. Sure there is more than enough blame to go around a few times and yet it is ONLY Trump who receives blame. WTF is that? Trump is the one who got the ball rolling on vaccines for America. Trump is the one person who wanted to limit who comes into America from other countries and was called a Racist for doing so. How many foreigners brought Covid right into America with them? How many illegal aliens crossed our border carrying Covid as well as numerous diseases America had not seen seen in decades. Not one illegal alien was asked about getting vaccinated and I think it was Mayorcas who said they were not screened. How stupid is that?

Dennis
How is it ONLY Trump gets blamed? How about Andre... (show quote)



They weren’t President !

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Apr 24, 2024 14:18:42   #
rwoodvira
 
Racmanaz wrote:
More BS lefty lies, even Dr. Fauci said Trump did everything. He asked him to do an early on. You guys went after Trump when he wanted to put the ban on China travel saying that he was racist.


Usual Rac BS Deflect, call the person a lefty, or a liar. Reality is neither left or right.

I'll try to make it simple for you - think of contagion as a row of upright dominoes maybe a thousand or so. Trump allows the first to fall, then it hits the next and so on; Biden comes in and the only way to stop the dominoes from falling is to push the next ones out of the way. Unfortunately, the only way to stop viruses from spreading is isolation, antivirals or vaccinations. Only Covid is even more virulent, if a person withCovid walks in a room, three people catch it and so on So instead of one line of dominoes, it goes to three, and each of those go to 3.

Fauci had to go along with Trump or be fired, same with the rest of the group. If you disagree with Trump, even if you are right, you are gone. Plus he should have retired a long time ago. Suggest you read The Premonition which gives the story of how public health officials tried to tell the politicians to prepare. If the big words are beyond you, maybe you can get someone to read it to you. It won't be on Instagram.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:28:39   #
rwoodvira
 
I just mentioned to Rac, read The Premonition which advises the course of events. Cuomo and Newsom both blew it, but Trump knew how virulent the disease was and had spreader events. He admitted he downplayed the disease. He had the knowledge first and pretty much ignored it until it got bad. The Dems acerbated the contagion, but the first fault was Trump.

There were pandemic plans in place, the best being the Bush plan imo; he ignored them. Had Trump followed them, the damage could have been reduced. Example - people were restricted coming into the country, but were unrestricted in dispersing to other areas while ill. That spread the disease as well.

In lieu of an antiviral or vacine, isolate to prevent the spread. If you read either the Bush or Obama plans, that's what it tells you - it didn't happen.

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Apr 24, 2024 14:41:16   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
Bazbo wrote:
The US Unemployment rate in April 2020 was 14.8%. And the shutdowns happened under Trump.

Professor Google is your friend.


And the shut-downs were largely due to Covid's effect on workers and sales = people shopped online. The wife and I still do, easier than driving around. The UPS and FedEx drivers have our house memorized. The fast food and other restaurants also went to less human to human contact by going to electronic with kiosks and phone ahead, pickup at the door.
The kiosks couldn't catch Covid and when you drove up to pick up your app or phone order for a while the person who handed it out the window or came to your car in the pickup section of the parking lot looked like a CDC hazardous lab worker.

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Apr 24, 2024 15:47:24   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
robertjerl wrote:
And the shut-downs were largely due to Covid's effect on workers and sales = people shopped online. The wife and I still do, easier than driving around. The UPS and FedEx drivers have our house memorized. The fast food and other restaurants also went to less human to human contact by going to electronic with kiosks and phone ahead, pickup at the door.
The kiosks couldn't catch Covid and when you drove up to pick up your app or phone order for a while the person who handed it out the window or came to your car in the pickup section of the parking lot looked like a CDC hazardous lab worker.
And the shut-downs were largely due to Covid's eff... (show quote)


Great point. By far the largest number of shutdowns were due lack of business NOT due to any mass ordered shut down despite some here try to make you believe.

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Apr 24, 2024 16:07:09   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
DennyT wrote:
Great point. By far the largest number of shutdowns were due lack of business NOT due to any mass ordered shut down despite some here try to make you believe.


BS

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Apr 24, 2024 16:51:09   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
BS


No BS, you are one of the LIARS.

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Apr 24, 2024 17:14:24   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Kraken wrote:
No BS, you are one of the LIARS.


Let’s take a poll of Racs next word:
Liar
Hypocrit
BS

Or put LOL in front of each above.

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Apr 24, 2024 17:22:07   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
DennyT wrote:
Great point. By far the largest number of shutdowns were due lack of business NOT due to any mass ordered shut down despite some here try to make you believe.


Amazon, Costco, Sam's, Walmart, Sears and others with a big online presence were booming-online. The brick and mortar stores both large and small had less traffic and lower sales.

The delivery companies were over worked, hired more drivers, rented more trucks etc. In our neighborhood there was one elderly UPS retiree with just his old company cap and a six passenger golf cart delivered small packages every day of the week for a while. He told one of the neighbors that he was making 3-4x his pension delivering small packages 6 hours a day. Because of the open work cart and his great personality, school kids who were homeschooling on Zoom would take breaks to ride their bikes with him, talk to him and help him drop off packages so he didn't have to climb in and out and walk so much. When UPS got another truck and full-time driver the kids were disappointed to not be helping anymore.

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Apr 24, 2024 17:23:26   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
They weren’t President !


DAMN!!!!! Now if that isn't the most ridiculous answer I have ever heard from one of the Left Wing liars here in The Attic. lil denny I think you just took the prize my BFF.

Riddle me this then smarty panties, you haven't explained why the Left called Trump a Racist when he tried to limit those people from other countries with the virus from coming to America to spread it any more. Then when you have your mind firmly wrapped around that answer explain to us why Mayorkas pointed out illegal aliens are not even considered for vaccination when crossing the border. I will be right here while you get with Satan and conjure up some bullshit answer for us.

Do remember though you are now at the very top of the most ridiculous answers in the entire history of The Attic. Congratulations on being the Supreme LOSER.

Dennis

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Apr 24, 2024 17:25:38   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
DennyT wrote:
Let’s take a poll of Racs next word:
Liar
Hypocrit
BS

Or put LOL in front of each above.


I like hitting him with his own worn-out words and

I never use that useless LOL bull-$hit.

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Apr 24, 2024 17:28:05   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
Let’s take a poll of Racs next word:
Liar
Hypocrit
BS

Or put LOL in front of each above.


How about we just give those combined honors of the following to YOU. They ARE well deserved too aren't they?

Liar
Hypocrite (yes there is an e at the end)
Illiterate
BS

Dennis

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Apr 24, 2024 17:30:31   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How about we just give those combined honors of the following to YOU. They ARE well deserved too aren't they?

Liar
Hypocrite (yes there is an e at the end)
Illiterate
BS

Dennis


BS and Dennis sure fit together nicely.

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Apr 24, 2024 20:15:39   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
They weren’t President !


Then to the Left they should not be held responsible. Is that the bullshit answer you are telling us? Golly gee little girl what a surprise answer you provided.

But it ain’t workin.

Dennis

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