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Mar 15, 2024 11:34:55   #
RoswellAlien
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50. I was ready to do more wildlife and birds in flight photography until I spent some time with this beautiful beast….it is too darn heavy for me to hold still and I am not inclined to lug a tripod around when I get the urge to shoot some wildlife when I am close to nature. At 75 I admit I am not as strong as I’d like


and holding that lens isn’t getting easier.

So I am returning it to Adorama today and exchanging it for the Sony cyber shot RX10 IV. I guess a bridge camera isn’t so bad….(right?)…..and it sure will make my sometimes forays into nature a little easier. I just hope I don’t have pangs of regret and envy when I encounter folks with those big, beautiful telephoto lens in the field.🥹
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Have the same issue with an 850 and 200-500. Put the cushioned V rest from a rifle shooting stick and that works pretty well.

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Mar 15, 2024 12:16:23   #
bwana Loc: Bergen, Alberta, Canada
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50. I was ready to do more wildlife and birds in flight photography until I spent some time with this beautiful beast….it is too darn heavy for me to hold still and I am not inclined to lug a tripod around when I get the urge to shoot some wildlife when I am close to nature. At 75 I admit I am not as strong as I’d like and holding that lens isn’t getting easier.

So I am returning it to Adorama today and exchanging it for the Sony cyber shot RX10 IV. I guess a bridge camera isn’t so bad….(right?)…..and it sure will make my sometimes forays into nature a little easier. I just hope I don’t have pangs of regret and envy when I encounter folks with those big, beautiful telephoto lens in the field.🥹
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You'll be very happy with RX10 IV

bwa

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Mar 15, 2024 12:35:25   #
dmsM43
 
Keep in mind that with the advent of denoise AI software, smaller sensors such as on Micro 4/3 cameras or on the Sony RX10V mentioned above will give more than acceptable results at the higher ISO's often required for wildlife photography.

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Mar 15, 2024 12:44:18   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
a6k wrote:
I was going to "prove" that the IQ of the RX10iv doesn't compare to the IQ of my 𝜶6500. Oops. I may have been wrong.

I mounted my excellent FE70-200/4 on the 𝜶6500. That gives an "equivalent" 300 mm. I set my RX10iv to 300 even though it can go to "equivalent" 600 mm. Then I took some raw+JPG shots of my favorite evaluation target at about 10 a.m. today using a railing to keep the cameras steady. Then I selected the best shot from each. I used both cameras on "auto" although that is not how I usually use them.

These two shots are SOOC.

Here are the two shots. You decide. I lean toward the RX10iv but it's close.

That said, my 𝜶6500 with a 500 mm lens is in another category. That would be a 220 actual on a 1" sensor vs a 500 actual on a APS-C sensor. Then it's not even close. But my trusty RX10iv is better than I thought!
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As an RX10 user I prefer that shot. I am comparing the three knobs in the photo.

Dennis

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Mar 15, 2024 14:03:09   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
imagemeister wrote:
I do not see as even close - Use the RX10 more and you will get rid of the A6500 or, maybe keep it for lower light/higher ISO's .....


Here are two images of the same target but on different days.

One is with the 𝜶6500 and my Minolta 500/8 reflex and the other is with the RX10iv on which I tried for 750 equivalent using "Clear Image Zoom" but fell slightly short (675).

The RX10, IMO, is not as sharp or free of noise. But the composition is not exactly the same so it's a little harder to compare. If you look at 100% you will see that the bigger sensor does better even while being 11% more magnified.

This shot of an Osprey was taken with the 𝜶6500 and a rented Tamron 150-500. It's a JPG of the original raw with zero editing. It's a heavy combination that produces results that my RX10iv can't match. This was taken at equivalent 750 mm.

I am very fond of my RX10iv but I'm not ready to stop using the 𝜶6500.

𝜶6500 plus 500/8 Reflex
𝜶6500 plus 500/8 Reflex...
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RX10iv using Clear Image Zoom 675 mm equiv.
RX10iv using Clear Image Zoom 675 mm equiv....
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Mar 15, 2024 15:10:11   #
delder Loc: Maryland
 
I spent the better part of 20 years shooting with various "Point & Shoot" Digital Cameras after [Convenient] Film Photography Dried up. Yes, 2 MP, 3.1 MP and so on until about 16 MP. I even had a Kodak Camera adapter for my Motorola Flip Phone. I didn't get my [Second Hand] Nikon D3100 until about 4 years ago.
Amazingly, my collection of Nikon Film Cameras grows in my search for Vintage Nikor Glass!
[As film returns, they may be pressed into service again!]
[My Film Photography started in the 60's with a Yashicaflex]
With my Samsung S23, I find the fact that it is everpresent is the main factor in my frequent use of it.
[High Megapixles, Image Sabilization, too much more] I also carry a Panisonic Lumix Pocket Zoom camera for quick shots.
Quote the UHH Motto "The best camera is the one you have with you!"

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Mar 15, 2024 17:47:00   #
mostsports Loc: Mid Atlantic
 
My daughter shoos with a Nikon D7500 and a bridge Nikon camera. Yesterday at the Dam she used a new Nikon long reach zoom to capture birds. It proved to be too heavy without a tripod, so it was back to the bridge camera with the long reach. As usual, it took very good images. Based on her many successes photographing birds in flight with the light weight bridge camera, I can highly recommend it.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:37:01   #
Cany143 Loc: SE Utah
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Everyone faces the reality of aging at one point or another. Feeling regret or envy is a waste of the few years you have left.

I hope you're able to reboot your attitude so you can experience the joy of the hobby and the awesome nature around you 🥰


The "few years you [or any of us?] have left"??? Good grief, Linda! How limiting! I (for one) prefer to think of that time 'left' as being in the hundreds, or the thousands, or maybe in the millions! of seconds left. And I (for another) intend to make the best of every last one of those, regardless the weight of a camera, as should our maturing OP.

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Mar 15, 2024 18:47:38   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
a6k wrote:
Here are two images of the same target but on different days.

One is with the 𝜶6500 and my Minolta 500/8 reflex and the other is with the RX10iv on which I tried for 750 equivalent using "Clear Image Zoom" but fell slightly short (675).

The RX10, IMO, is not as sharp or free of noise. But the composition is not exactly the same so it's a little harder to compare. If you look at 100% you will see that the bigger sensor does better even while being 11% more magnified.

This shot of an Osprey was taken with the 𝜶6500 and a rented Tamron 150-500. It's a JPG of the original raw with zero editing. It's a heavy combination that produces results that my RX10iv can't match. This was taken at equivalent 750 mm.

I am very fond of my RX10iv but I'm not ready to stop using the 𝜶6500.
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This is the kind of subject you should be testing/comparing with ! - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-749907-1.html

When you make your comparisons, ISO will be a major component ........the f4 possibility with the RX against an f8 possibility with the 6500/500 Reflex means the RX should be at 2 ISO stops lower in your test .

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Mar 16, 2024 09:52:43   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
I had the same issue and traded in all my Nikon gear and lenses for micro 4/3s in 2016. I’ve never looked back. BTW I went to Olympus/now OM Systems. Best in camera stabilization in the business.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:04:16   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
mizzee wrote:
I had the same issue and traded in all my Nikon gear and lenses for micro 4/3s in 2016. I’ve never looked back. BTW I went to Olympus/now OM Systems. Best in camera stabilization in the business.


One of the reasons M43 is such a great format is lens selection. Both Olympus/OM-Systems and Panasonic Lumix (with the help of Leica) make Micro 4/3 cameras. So does Black Magic Designs.

Voigtländer, Meike, and many others make compatible M43 lenses, too. With adapters, old SLR and dSLR lenses can work on M43 with varying degrees of automation retained.

https://alikgriffin.com/micro-43-lens-buying-guide/

https://www.four-thirds.org/en/lens/

https://www.m43lenses.com

Check out the Micro Four Nerds channel on YouTube for lots of camera and lens reviews, comparisons, tests, and insights. Emily knows her stuff.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:14:03   #
har1ey4 Loc: Long Island, New York
 
You might consider a Cotton Carrier for your gear.

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Mar 16, 2024 10:15:46   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
burkphoto wrote:
One of the reasons M43 is such a great format is lens selection. Both Olympus/OM-Systems and Panasonic Lumix (with the help of Leica) make Micro 4/3 cameras. So does Black Magic Designs.

Voigtländer, Meike, and many others make compatible M43 lenses, too. With adapters, old SLR and dSLR lenses can work on M43 with varying degrees of automation retained.

https://alikgriffin.com/micro-43-lens-buying-guide/

https://www.four-thirds.org/en/lens/

https://www.m43lenses.com

Check out the Micro Four Nerds channel on YouTube for lots of camera and lens reviews, comparisons, tests, and insights. Emily knows her stuff.
One of the reasons M43 is such a great format is l... (show quote)


No need for ANY extra lenses with the RX - saves a lot of time, money, weight and bulk.

If the RX were ever promoted - as it should be - it would devastate the interchangeable lens industry .....

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Mar 16, 2024 11:03:47   #
nealbralley Loc: Kansas
 
The Tamron 150-500 for Sony is a great lens. While it isn’t a feather, it isn’t too heavy. Perhaps, instead, you should buy a carbon fiber monopod.

I use my Tamron 150-500 on a Sony a6600, and it takes pictures every bit as good, or better, as what I get with a Nikon D500 or D850 with the Nikkor 500mm PF lens. That Tamron lens is superb. I don’t think a bridge camera will compete! You will likely be giving up both lens quality and sensor size and quality.



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Mar 16, 2024 12:11:32   #
Mwilliamsphotography Loc: Royal Oak Michigan & Palm Harbor Florida
 
I hear ya. I'm sliding into 80 and have started downsizing my daily take with gear.

I decided to keep the meg big and the camera as small as possible, and the lenses even smaller.
very small powerhouse Zeiss 55/1.8 ... I call the kit "Mighty Mouse". I can crop like crazy and still get an excellent image. (See the "Parrot Hotel" image below) < I was quite a ways from this scene behind a fence in a park. Probably would have needed a 400+mm lens to frame like this.

Now I have to decide whether to sell my pristine FE200-600. Which is a terrific lens until you have to cart it through the wilds of Florida with a knee replacement and old man muscles, LOL! ... I even bought a Kirk grip handle and RRS ARCA replacement foot.

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