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Mar 14, 2024 22:26:40   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
W9OD wrote:
I want to thank you and everyone for their thoughts. I have been getting disappointed results lately. Camera shake, I am going to start packing my monopod.


I also have the RX10iv, 4 EF bodies, 2 RF bodies. A ton of lenses. A Panasonic pocket camera, some old Olympic pocket cameras, a now several years old Fuji bridge camera. And three misc. bridge cameras whose brands I now forget that I got for $20 each from Goodwill's clearance table. Being in goodwill and seeing the cameras on the spur of the moment, I got one for each family car. The old Fuji is now for our special needs son to use and my RX10iv is in a small camera bag with extra batteries, memory cards, a small flash and a pair of warm gloves that goes with me when I am out and about on my street legal mobility scooter. Cruising the backstreets and trails in parks etc. is FUN. The scooter took the place of my last motorcycle, which went to charity a few years back. (hint from wife, "You are in your 70s and...") I missed it, CA made the speed limit for seniors on mobility scooters 30mph. I pinched a sciatic nerve and my doctor gave me a letter saying I should buy a power wheelchair or a scooter for my photography etc. So I did!!! At 30 mph, I can actually get somewhere in a reasonable time. The speed of those mobility scooters is normally 8-15 mph, the brand I bought was rated at over 20 mph and when I called the company the owner told me mine would arrive able to do the new CA speed limit. It can actually do just a hair under 32 mph (50 kilometers per hour-the instruments are all metric).

Yes, I LOVE GADGETS and can afford a few! (? define few)

And another use for the mono-pod - ever watch the old "Robin Hood" on TV? Mono-pod=quarter staff, and they do have defense classes (some in video) in the use of a staff. A few of the online Native American craft sites have beautiful hand carved "walking sticks" and one or two sites will add a camera mount. The carbon fiber ones almost all have an option for a camera mount. Just search Amazon for "walking stick with camera mount".

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Mar 14, 2024 22:40:53   #
Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50……


I picked up a lens bracket. It supports the lens and allows me to focus. I also picked up a wrist strap. Even though I use a Canon 5D.

Look on line for FOTGA L200 Telephoto Bracket

Look on line for a VELLO Camera Wrist Strap

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Mar 14, 2024 23:24:59   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50. I was ready to do more wildlife and birds in flight photography until I spent some time with this beautiful beast….it is too darn heavy for me to hold still and I am not inclined to lug a tripod around when I get the urge to shoot some wildlife when I am close to nature. At 75 I admit I am not as strong as I’d like and holding that lens isn’t getting easier.

So I am returning it to Adorama today and exchanging it for the Sony cyber shot RX10 IV. I guess a bridge camera isn’t so bad….(right?)…..and it sure will make my sometimes forays into nature a little easier. I just hope I don’t have pangs of regret and envy when I encounter folks with those big, beautiful telephoto lens in the field.🥹
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Ta... (show quote)


You have done the RIGHT thing and it should be with no regrets or looking back! - I have Tamron 150-600 G2, Canon 400 f4 DO, Canon 400 5.6L, Sony 70-400, on Sony A99, A9, Canon 80D and Canon 1D mark IV - The Sony RX10m4 @ 100, 200, and 400 ISO BEATS them ALL ! The Canon 70-300 IS II on the 80D is my only combo that really competes with the RX10 for image quality ! Sad, but that is the reality. The RX10 is mindblowing - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-802108-1.html#14510129

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Mar 15, 2024 07:40:15   #
george19
 
A month after I retired, my employer sent me an unexpected bonus check that I used to buy the 200-500. I love this lens, but I need to drive even the half mile around the corner to lug the tripod and related gear.

Even then, many of my shots are tethered. I try to end the day with some handheld shots.

I’ll bring the beast to Maine for our annual trip, along with the other gear. The Z100-400 is on my short list.

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Mar 15, 2024 07:58:02   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50. I was ready to do more wildlife and birds in flight photography until I spent some time with this beautiful beast….it is too darn heavy for me to hold still and I am not inclined to lug a tripod around when I get the urge to shoot some wildlife when I am close to nature. At 75 I admit I am not as strong as I’d like and holding that lens isn’t getting easier.

So I am returning it to Adorama today and exchanging it for the Sony cyber shot RX10 IV. I guess a bridge camera isn’t so bad….(right?)…..and it sure will make my sometimes forays into nature a little easier. I just hope I don’t have pangs of regret and envy when I encounter folks with those big, beautiful telephoto lens in the field.🥹
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Ta... (show quote)


You may want to consider the Nikon 70-300, which is not that expensive and would give you a field of view of about 135-450mm on your camera. You would also need the Nikon adapter since this is a DSLR lens. But it may be worth considering. This lens gets excellent reviews.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1275036-REG/nikon_20062_afp_dx_nikkor_70_300mm.html

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Mar 15, 2024 08:51:36   #
lyndacast
 
billnikon wrote:
You may want to consider the Nikon 70-300, which is not that expensive and would give you a field of view of about 135-450mm on your camera. You would also need the Nikon adapter since this is a DSLR lens. But it may be worth considering. This lens gets excellent reviews.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1275036-REG/nikon_20062_afp_dx_nikkor_70_300mm.html


Billnikon….had this excellent lens with my d500…traded it, along with the d500, for the z150-500, which led me to returning it and purchasing the RX 10iv! Loved that lens on my heavier set up!

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Mar 15, 2024 09:01:32   #
julian.gang
 
Longshadow wrote:
Use what works best for you.

I have a Sony H-1 bridge camera that I still use, even though the pixel count is not high at all.
My Canon T1i gets most of the work though.

A camera is much better than no camera!

Compromise/adjustment is inevitable at some point.


Got that right, I can even remember developing film in my basement darkroom!...Julian

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Mar 15, 2024 09:21:27   #
Red6
 
I am also thinking seriously about making my kit a good bit lighter and more compact. While the camera I am using is not that heavy, I have an excellent Canon RF 24-205mm f4 L IS that is quite heavy. I am attending an airshow here in Florida in a few weeks and I will take the Canon with the 24-105. It will be hot and I will be there for most of the day so I will see if it is time to start shedding equipment or going to something lighter.

I am looking at several options:
(1) ditch the L lens and going to something else with less weight but lower quality.
(2) moving to another platform such as m43
(3) Going to a bridge camera such as the Sony R10 or Nikon P950
(4) sticking to my trusty travel camera a Sony RX100 III I may take this camera also to the airshow and compare results with the Canon.

Each alternative has its own advantages and disadvantages.

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Mar 15, 2024 09:23:09   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
lyndacast wrote:
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Tamron z 150-500mm lens on my z50. I was ready to do more wildlife and birds in flight photography until I spent some time with this beautiful beast….it is too darn heavy for me to hold still and I am not inclined to lug a tripod around when I get the urge to shoot some wildlife when I am close to nature. At 75 I admit I am not as strong as I’d like and holding that lens isn’t getting easier.

So I am returning it to Adorama today and exchanging it for the Sony cyber shot RX10 IV. I guess a bridge camera isn’t so bad….(right?)…..and it sure will make my sometimes forays into nature a little easier. I just hope I don’t have pangs of regret and envy when I encounter folks with those big, beautiful telephoto lens in the field.🥹
I am a Nikon shooter and was excited to put the Ta... (show quote)


Lynda as a user of the Sony RX10IV I doubt you will have any pangs of regret. A professional photographer friend of mine suggested I get one. At the time he told me I would find it to do about 98% of what my other cameras were doing. That would include Hasselblad, Leica, Nikon (many) Canon and so on. He was right. I use it for everything from macro, birds in flight and whatever normal photography shots you like. The 600mm when I do my part is very sharp but it also goes out to 800 and 1200mm as well and still pretty sharp. It is nowhere the size of the 150-600mm you have.

Dennis

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Mar 15, 2024 09:56:22   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
I don't know exactly how heavy your Tamron 150-600 is, but the weight and potential camera shake may not be the only culprit causing unsatisfactory images. For instance, I was not happy with the results of my Sony 200-600 while hand holding and felt the lens was either just not sharp, or it was my inability to hand hold this lens without camera shake due to my aging arms. But, in part, listening to Patrick Murphy Youtube video commenting on this lens, and other Sony telephotos, and his comments on the need for high shutter speeds to get sharp images this Sony zoom, I started increasing my shutter speed, not worrying about the impact of high ISO's. Guess what, this lens is actually very sharp and I am a happy camper. So, if you haven't already returned the lens, take it out and shoot at shutter speeds at or above 3200 and see what you think about the results. You might decide to keep it.

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Mar 15, 2024 10:16:41   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
gwilliams6 wrote:
The Sony RX10 IV is excellent and you have an excellent quality Zeiss 24mm-600mm equivalent lens in a more compact and lightweight package. Many fellow pros I know also have this camera in their kits and love it, especially when traveling and out in the field, I has a super fast stacked sensor, amazing AF, and can shoot at some amazing frame rates for stills and video, and more.


Adding to your post, in early 2019 I was participating in a Costa Rica workshop in the Peninsula de Osa Corcovda Park nature area. We were a group of 8 or 9 that carried mostly DSLRs and long heavy zooms. We encountered another group of about ten people, also like us mostly in their 60s/70s, that were on a similar visit to the park. Four of the group were carrying a RX10 iii or iv. And the Sony was the only camera they brought on the trip. For the rest of the day and after, that stuck with me as I carried my Canon 5d4 and Sigma 150-600 Cont. I’m sure their images were just fine and to a woman/man less tired at the end of the day. I think the OP will be just as happy and pleased.

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Mar 15, 2024 10:31:20   #
a6k Loc: Detroit & Sanibel
 
imagemeister wrote:
You have done the RIGHT thing and it should be with no regrets or looking back! - I have Tamron 150-600 G2, Canon 400 f4 DO, Canon 400 5.6L, Sony 70-400, on Sony A99, A9, Canon 80D and Canon 1D mark IV - The Sony RX10m4 @ 100, 200, and 400 ISO BEATS them ALL ! The Canon 70-300 IS II on the 80D is my only combo that really competes with the RX10 for image quality ! Sad, but that is the reality. The RX10 is mindblowing - https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-802108-1.html#14510129


I was going to "prove" that the IQ of the RX10iv doesn't compare to the IQ of my 𝜶6500. Oops. I may have been wrong.

I mounted my excellent FE70-200/4 on the 𝜶6500. That gives an "equivalent" 300 mm. I set my RX10iv to 300 even though it can go to "equivalent" 600 mm. Then I took some raw+JPG shots of my favorite evaluation target at about 10 a.m. today using a railing to keep the cameras steady. Then I selected the best shot from each. I used both cameras on "auto" although that is not how I usually use them.

These two shots are SOOC.

Here are the two shots. You decide. I lean toward the RX10iv but it's close.

That said, my 𝜶6500 with a 500 mm lens is in another category. That would be a 220 actual on a 1" sensor vs a 500 actual on a APS-C sensor. Then it's not even close. But my trusty RX10iv is better than I thought!

𝜶6500
𝜶6500...
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RX10iv
RX10iv...
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Mar 15, 2024 11:01:03   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
a6k wrote:
I was going to "prove" that the IQ of the RX10iv doesn't compare to the IQ of my 𝜶6500. Oops. I may have been wrong.

I mounted my excellent FE70-200/4 on the 𝜶6500. That gives an "equivalent" 300 mm. I set my RX10iv to 300 even though it can go to "equivalent" 600 mm. Then I took some raw+JPG shots of my favorite evaluation target at about 10 a.m. today using a railing to keep the cameras steady. Then I selected the best shot from each. I used both cameras on "auto" although that is not how I usually use them.

These two shots are SOOC.

Here are the two shots. You decide. I lean toward the RX10iv but it's close.

That said, my 𝜶6500 with a 500 mm lens is in another category. That would be a 220 actual on a 1" sensor vs a 500 actual on a APS-C sensor. Then it's not even close. But my trusty RX10iv is better than I thought!
I was going to "prove" that the IQ of th... (show quote)


I do not see as even close - Use the RX10 more and you will get rid of the A6500 or, maybe keep it for lower light/higher ISO's .....

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Mar 15, 2024 11:02:05   #
Hip Coyote
 
If more people would carry the camera they need rather than the one they want, the camera industry would go out of business. Look no further than the Gallery to see people with cutting edge gear taking fuzzy pictures of their wonky horizon vacations, their favorite cat or backsides of people strolling down promenades. Proper technique, understanding exposure, a little bit of editing goes a long way. Get the Sony, and forget the rest.

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Mar 15, 2024 11:31:09   #
Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore
 
f8lee wrote:
Perhaps you would consider using a monopod? I carry my heavy lens/camera clamped to my monopod which I just carry on my shoulder. It is also more than enough to keep the rig stable when I amm holding for the right moment to shoot. Just a thought.


I agree with Theo opod. Some tripods have one leg that can be removed for use as a monopod.
Some carbon fiber tripods are surprisingly light

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