What happened to measles? (Page 2): Well spoken! This is exactly my opinion.

Dan' de Bourgogne

Well spoken! This is exactly my opinion.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

Silversleuth wrote:

To those ardent anti-vaxers, no amount of reason, logic or scientific data can deter them from their delusions about efficacy or dangers of vaccinations. Remember polio? Well that was pretty much wiped out by vaccination. One thing that can't be prevented or cured: Stupid.

I cannot fathom the utter stupidity of the anti-vax crowd — people who will not even CONSIDER the millions of people that have been saved by vaccines . . . .

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

bikinkawboy wrote:

The reason the anti-vaxers exist is because they never lived through those diseases or saw people that had. As a kid I remember smallpox survivors that as adults had huge, deep scars all over their faces. Or adults hobbling around with a shriveled up leg from polio. Or my brother delirious with a 106 fever from measles. In short, they’ve had it too good and therefore don’t appreciate the good life that vaccines have given them.

How true. AND they will not learn from history.

Wrinkles Loc: NC

SteveR wrote:

Encephalitis in 1 in every 1000 children br br 1 ... (show quote)

I was 1 of the 1,000. I had encephalitis as my measles were coming to an end. My head would go backwards so far that I thought I would break my neck. I was 11 at the time and more scared than I have ever been in my life. I tell people that is my excuse for forgetfulness. :)

Wrinkles Loc: NC

Scouser wrote:

WhenI was in Grade School, measles was no big deal. It was way before the MMR vaccinations were even thought of.
Typically, Little Johnny would come into class and say to the teacher, "Please Miss, my sister won't be in for a few days, she's got measles". The prevalent attitude was, OK, let's get this over with before the holidays.
So why do we break out the Hazmat suits and go into Level 3 lock-down when someone even whispers the word?
Something must have changed!

I wish the MMR vaccine had been available for me. I had Encephalitis when I was 11 following a bad case (is there a good one) of measles. Thought I would break my neck from the convulsions.

ruzbynik Loc: Victoria BC

Silversleuth wrote:

To those ardent anti-vaxers, no amount of reason, logic or scientific data can deter them from their delusions about efficacy or dangers of vaccinations. Remember polio? Well that was pretty much wiped out by vaccination. One thing that can't be prevented or cured: Stupid.

I am optimistic that acquiring sufficient knowledge can prevent and cure stupidity. For example (no offense intended) you may be stupid regarding vaccine failures but some research can cure that. The Sabin oral polio vaccine was perhaps the best vaccine ever produced but the Salk vaccine in 1955 caused 40,000 polio infections. There are other vaccine failures and unfortunately the COVID spike protein injection will eventually be proven to be one of them. The previous sentence is just an observation of a small but growing fringe minority.

goofybruce

Longshadow wrote:

Perception and attitude.

The MMR shots worked well for years, then the anti-vaxers said no.
So guess what's back....

No concept that the MMR shots were keeping it in check.

MMR stands for Mumps, Measles, Rubella, aka German Measles.

Capn_Dave

Actually most people were vaccinated against measles in the 50's and was basically eradicated. So what has changed? The illegal influx of people across our open border. Measles is the only disease you hear of but there are also have been outbreaks of tropical diseases there were not in the U.S. before

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

On Roosevelt Island in New York City’s East River by the south end was the Renwick Smallpox hospital. The building is falling down. It goes to show that a city gripped by the plaque had little choices.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smallpox_Hospital

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

Capn_Dave wrote:

Actually most people were vaccinated against measles in the 50's and was basically eradicated. So what has changed? The illegal influx of people across our open border. Measles is the only disease you hear of but there are also have been outbreaks of tropical diseases there were not in the U.S. before

Before people immigrated into this country they were hospitalized on Ellis Island. People were evaluated and examined for medical conditions. I think one of the worst conditions is Tuberculosis. Many people come to this country under asylum from other countries with oppressive governments. They were not properly treated against this disease and had only received minimal drug therapy. As a result these people have multi drug resistant TB. We now have to use drugs that are only available through the CDC. This is one of the newest medical challenges we face.

https://www.statueofliberty.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Old-Ellis-Island-shot-768x410.jpg

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

I wish to thank all the hoggers from keeping this thread from headed to the Attic. It may very easily from sending this there but we as a staunch group prevented that.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

bikinkawboy wrote:

The reason the anti-vaxers exist is because they never lived through those diseases or saw people that had. As a kid I remember smallpox survivors that as adults had huge, deep scars all over their faces. Or adults hobbling around with a shriveled up leg from polio. Or my brother delirious with a 106 fever from measles. In short, they’ve had it too good and therefore don’t appreciate the good life that vaccines have given them.

Polio was still going when I was little.....
So glad they came out with the vaccine! (I was four when it came out.)
Measles were not fun!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

halraiser wrote:

I was raised in the time before vaccinations for m... (show quote)

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

goofybruce wrote:

MMR stands for Mumps, Measles, Rubella, aka German Measles.

Yes it does. Much easier to say MMR though.

llamb Loc: Northeast Ohio

In 1948 I was in a polio ward. A priest had already administered last rites. A nurse noticed a red area on one of my toes - it was a spider bite. A specialist was brought from Chicago and I was saved. I was lucky that the nurse was observant - God bless her. Now, many years later, I still have visions of polio survivors with their leg-braces.

God bless the medical researchers and the medical professionals and their support cadre.

~Lee