User ID wrote:
Maybe youre a fan of CCD sensors without actually knowing much about them ?
i’m not a sensor expert or sensor designer. I know there have been improvements to sensor tech including BSI.
But it seems like when I see older cameras with larger sensors the colors are vivid and rich. I wondered if the larger pixels of the older cameras yielded better color. And I have heard people speak highly of some of the older cameras as was done here by OP.
So I wonder have manufacturers traded off a little color to get other features such as more MP.
Yes know there are many variables including the lens, the skill of the photographer and processing methods as well.
joecichjr
Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
User ID wrote:
You were patient and you won out. Acoarst I might have been viewing those beach goers with the sun at my back. Cool pix of orange faces with squinting eyes !
Ive attached examples below of what I spoke of earlier.
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I love what you did in #3
joecichjr
Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA
RetCapt wrote:
The photograph of the Ford was taken facing east. As I said, the sun was coming in over my right shoulder. I was pointed in the direction of where the photograph was.
But, unlike you, I do sunsets. Here is one from Carmel, CA, end of 2023.
In this instance I was facing west, because that was where the photograph was.
I don't believe in restrictive generalizations about which way to face. I face in whatever direction the image I want is located.
All that matters is the photograph.
The photograph of the Ford was taken facing east. ... (
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Yes, you always go where the shot is - and in this case, it is sure a gorgeous one 🖤🧡🖤
JD750 wrote:
i’m not a sensor expert or sensor designer. I know there have been improvements to sensor tech including BSI.
But it seems like when I see older cameras with larger sensors the colors are vivid and rich. I wondered if the larger pixels of the older cameras yielded better color. And I have heard people speak highly of some of the older cameras as was done here by OP.
So I wonder have manufacturers traded off a little color to get other features such as more MP.
Yes know there are many variables including the lens, the skill of the photographer and processing methods as well.
i’m not a sensor expert or sensor designer. I know... (
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There are many devoted fans of the old CCD sensor colors. I will not list the shortcomings of CCDs but just summarize saying there was no path forward.
A D200 is a popular, affordable, latest era of CCD cameras. Buy one and love it or resell it. Know beforehand that it is not for low light, and is a bit slow. IIRC the first digital Leica also has a CCD (featuring the H-format ?).
"Nikon 24-85 f/3.5-4.5 VR lens" flyboy61 it's a popular kit lens (I believe it was bundled with the D600 variants) and VR II makes it EZ to get some really decent imagery. However I rarely use mine anymore (I should find a home for it soon) since I now have a stellar copy of the AF 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5 Nikkor that has far better edge to edge acuity. Although it does weigh in at 750 grams with it's HB-1 Hood and 62mm Nikon NC filter.
(Albeit I've read on various Photo Forums that there may be a wide range "Sample Variation" with that optic). Don't know but I purchased mine in "Like New" condition and it's flawless in all I've tested it on. My thoughts are their may be a lot of folks who haven't figured out how to preciously use Auto Fine Tune with older AF-D variants i.e. that lens. An EZ test is to switch to
LiveView and zoom in on an area of fine detail.
Bingo! you'll know instantly if it's the Lens or it's your want of expertise.
Oh, back in the day when the epic AF 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5 MK II was released there was a huge demand for Wedding Reportage... It paid extremely well and Nikon endowed that Lens with a macro mode to allow the Wedding Photographers to easily shoot the Wedding Rings, the Table Name Cards, and Floral Bouquets, including a host of other requisite details from an agreed upon standard
Deliverables list.
However I will concede that my
AF-S 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G VR ED II is truly a joy to use, virtually silent focusing and considerably lighter than it's big sister the AF-S 24-120mm f/4 VR ED NANO coated 710 gram optic.
I've deployed both the 24-85mm and the 35-135mm in my work and find that each can (and do) provide a very elegant solution for a myriad of assignments. Albeit my
fav the 35-135mm does come with some intriguing optical distortion in it's super macro mode... I've been trying to use this mode for portraiture however most subjects take a pass when I show them what they look like at a 35mm FL just 11 inches to the sensor plane... Yep, it really can get that close!
Many thanks to all who have shared in this thread... Some wonderful thoughts and experience with the 24-85mm!
Below is a test image of one of my Hair Mannequins at 35mm and 11 inches from eyelashes to the sensor
Great acuity... With dubious compostional elements? Although David Bailey was a master of the "In Your Face" Look. Image Data: Nikon D3x with an AF 35-135mm f/3.5-4.5 Nikkor. Illumination: 22" BD w/ two strip Softbox Kickers
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We can always depend on Thomas to provide experienced, well thought out information.
User ID wrote:
There are many devoted fans of the old CCD sensor colors. I will not list the shortcomings of CCDs but just summarize saying there was no path forward.
A D200 is a popular, affordable, latest era of CCD cameras. Buy one and love it or resell it. Know beforehand that it is not for low light, and is a bit slow. IIRC the first digital Leica also has a CCD (featuring the H-format ?).
Thank you for the technical history good to know!
CHG_CANON wrote:
You know the Everything bagels from CostCo? The local store sells two sleeves for the price of one. I toasted one this morning for breakfast, with a bit of Irish butter and a smear of whipped Philly cream cheese.
Very nice. Is the Irish butter similar to the butter you get at Outback or Texas Roadhouse?
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