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Feb 26, 2024 08:57:38   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
Longshadow wrote:


Before EXIF information, it had to be written down, for each shot.... NOT.
I never did, I just shot.


That's what I always wondered back in the film days. Were other photographers recording their settings for every shot? If I submitted photos someplace where they wanted settings, I just made my best guess.

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Feb 26, 2024 09:11:53   #
BebuLamar
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
That's what I always wondered back in the film days. Were other photographers recording their settings for every shot? If I submitted photos someplace where they wanted settings, I just made my best guess.


If I questioned the result that is if I weren't sure what I was going to get then I would remembered the settings as well as how I made the meter readings and what readings I did get. Without information about the scene brightness the data is not useful. But for most shots which I think I knew what I was going to get I didn't care about the settings.

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Feb 26, 2024 09:30:54   #
Vaun's photography Loc: Bonney Lake, WA
 
The saying, that "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder" rather sums it up for me: the data is or isn't important based on who's looking at it.

Settings that don't produce a good or great photo, may still be instructive in teaching photography skills.

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Feb 26, 2024 09:54:29   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
I for one like to see the info. It’s a quick snapshot (pun intended) of the technical side of the photo for those of us who have less experience than advanced photographers, info that may be motivation to explore the capabilities and/or learn the limitations of our own gear. It’s good reference info.

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Feb 26, 2024 09:59:35   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Canisdirus wrote:
There is a strong placebo effect that runs through all of photography.

Some of that is certainly to help other photographers (folks just looking at the images could not care less about that info naturally)

But it is also part of the placebo...

Someone who takes an image...if they took it with a Leica...they want you to know that. It works in their favor if you do. Same with lenses...etc.

You don't see paintings with a list of paint types they used or brushes...usually just photography.

It's free marketing...of the mind.

Most folks do it...most sites encourage it.
There is a strong placebo effect that runs through... (show quote)


Maybe not down to the choice of brushes, but walk through a museum and every work will display information about the media used. “Oil on canvas”, “watercolor on paper”, etc.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:02:05   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Do you think that was more for film and SLR's? Thinking of all the sensor sizes now, focal length and depth of field have to be compared to full frame to get any kind of "equivalency."


True, which is why, if they display that data, they should include camera and lens info too.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:03:45   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
BebuLamar wrote:
Although I do know the aperture/shutter speed/ISO even when I shoot in Auto but what if someone doesn't remember?


It’s in the EXIF data.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:07:03   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
That's what I always wondered back in the film days. Were other photographers recording their settings for every shot? If I submitted photos someplace where they wanted settings, I just made my best guess.


If they were using the zone system they certainly were, along with information about the dynamic range of the scene. It was important info for processing.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:10:40   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
It's interesting that y'all are objecting to this information being included. Have you noticed how many times that exact information is requested here on UHH? Many contests require that information. For those who point out that those setting only work in that one instance, I would remind you that newbies need a starting point. Knowing the settings you used for a successful shot gives them that point.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:25:22   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
AzPicLady wrote:
It's interesting that y'all are objecting to this information being included. Have you noticed how many times that exact information is requested here on UHH? Many contests require that information. For those who point out that those setting only work in that one instance, I would remind you that newbies need a starting point. Knowing the settings you used for a successful shot gives them that point.


Well said.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:56:10   #
whatdat Loc: Del Valle, Tx.
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
I am interested in knowing the choices the photographer made. What's the harm?


I agree. What’s the harm in showing the information? For people that are novices it may give a starting point for them to use as they learn. Then they can learn what works for them or not. I don’t see it as a big deal one way or the other.

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Feb 26, 2024 10:58:36   #
BebuLamar
 
whatdat wrote:
I agree. What’s the harm in showing the information? For people that are novices it may give a starting point for them to use as they learn. Then they can learn what works for them or not. I don’t see it as a big deal one way or the other.


No harm but it takes time to post them.

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Feb 26, 2024 11:00:41   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
DWU2 wrote:
Maybe it helps figure which cameras take good pictures.



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Feb 26, 2024 11:08:51   #
btbg
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Well said. There's still the issue, though, of how does one assess if we don't know the reasons the photographer chose those settings. For a novice with little experience, and no guidance except the numbers, that's going to be tough.


I don't think they include the techical data for novices. I think its included for intermediate level photographers who want to see what other people are doing.

As for not knowing the reasons why a photographer chose a particular group of settings if you want to duplicate a style or learn from it although you might not know the reasons it night give you a starting point for experimentation.

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Feb 26, 2024 11:19:01   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
Knowing what I know, and not knowing what I do not know, I believe it is highly likely that the images printed in magazines have gone through post-processing where the image has been enhanced or "beautified" in several ways.

It's like my Better Half getting ready when we go on a date night. She's post-processed and I'm RAW. 😁

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