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Feb 26, 2024 11:19:30   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
BebuLamar wrote:
No harm but it takes time to post them.


A few seconds to post or just share the download. Oh wait, then the download takes a few seconds to get. Oh well …

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Feb 26, 2024 11:22:05   #
BebuLamar
 
gvarner wrote:
A few seconds to post or just share the download. Oh wait, then the download takes a few seconds to get. Oh well …


But if you ask I will give you the details.

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Feb 26, 2024 11:49:14   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
btbg wrote:
...As for not knowing the reasons why a photographer chose a particular group of settings if you want to duplicate a style or learn from it although you might not know the reasons it night give you a starting point for experimentation.
That seems a confusing way to learn, but then I'm in my 7th decade of life, so a lot confuses me

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Feb 26, 2024 11:50:08   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
BebuLamar wrote:
But if you ask I will give you the details.
Yep, I still like this option the best. Then there's no misunderstanding of why.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:02:02   #
Vaun's photography Loc: Bonney Lake, WA
 
gvarner wrote:
A few seconds to post or just share the download. Oh wait, then the download takes a few seconds to get. Oh well …


Even if the download is shared, not everyone knows how to see the EXIF data. I don't.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:10:42   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Vaun's photography wrote:
Even if the download is shared, not everyone knows how to see the EXIF data. I don't.
But if it's important to someone, won't they take the initiative to learn?

Some browsers have an extension that will read and display exif without your having to download the image to your desktop.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:11:09   #
btbg
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
That seems a confusing way to learn, but then I'm in my 7th decade of life, so a lot confuses me


I know that different people learn in different ways. Some learn by trial and error. Some learn by reading. Some learn by watching videos or at workshops. I learn by anylyzing someone elses work and trying to figure out how they did it as well as watching what others do.

For example Friday at the state wrestling tournament I picked up a way to get my camera down to ground level without having to lay down to do it. I have learned a lot by cooying others, then once I can duplicate what they do making changes so that it fits my style.

Im only in my late 60s, but it is getting harder to get low to take photos so what the kid was doing may be really helpful if I can master it. He turned his screen so that it was facing up, put his camera on a platypod with the ball head pretty lose, attached a remote control and sat in a chair moving the camera to follow the action with his foot. Looks a lot easier than laying on your stomach and looking through the viewfinder.

This morning I looked at his photos on line to try to determine what else I might learn from him. Big thing is his framing is tighter than mine.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:15:38   #
BebuLamar
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Yep, I still like this option the best. Then there's no misunderstanding of why.


Then I also tell you why I did what I did. Also I would tell you that I shot the image at ISO 100 and 4 stops underexposed but I moved the exposure slider 4 stops to the right in the Adobe Camera Raw.
It appears that people think when you post something that's all you want people to see/know and you can't be asked for more. It bothers me a lot when someone posted something and I asked the person a question to verify what I thought I never got answer.
When you post something may be nobody cares but if someone wants to know more you should give answers that what I think.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:20:41   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
btbg wrote:
I know that different people learn in different ways. Some learn by trial and error. Some learn by reading. Some learn by watching videos or at workshops. I learn by anylyzing someone elses work and trying to figure out how they did it as well as watching what others do.

For example Friday at the state wrestling tournament I picked up a way to get my camera down to ground level without having to lay down to do it. I have learned a lot by cooying others, then once I can duplicate what they do making changes so that it fits my style.

Im only in my late 60s, but it is getting harder to get low to take photos so what the kid was doing may be really helpful if I can master it. He turned his screen so that it was facing up, put his camera on a platypod with the ball head pretty lose, attached a remote control and sat in a chair moving the camera to follow the action with his foot. Looks a lot easier than laying on your stomach and looking through the viewfinder.

This morning I looked at his photos on line to try to determine what else I might learn from him. Big thing is his framing is tighter than mine.
I know that different people learn in different wa... (show quote)
Sounds great!

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Feb 26, 2024 12:22:20   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
BebuLamar wrote:
...It bothers me a lot when someone posted something and I asked the person a question to verify what I thought I never got answer.

When you post something may be nobody cares but if someone wants to know more you should give answers that what I think.
Agree with both.

I dislike seeing someone post several topics of photos, never to return to give even a group thanks for the comments, let alone answer questions.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:32:35   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
That's what I always wondered back in the film days. Were other photographers recording their settings for every shot? If I submitted photos someplace where they wanted settings, I just made my best guess.

Oh, I'll bet there were quite a few who did!

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Feb 26, 2024 12:33:58   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Linda From Maine wrote:
Agree with both.

I dislike seeing someone post several topics of photos, never to return to give even a group thanks for the comments, let alone answer questions.


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Feb 26, 2024 12:40:55   #
BebuLamar
 
Longshadow wrote:


I don't know if it's me oversensitive but when someone posted something and I asked the OP a question and I don't have the answer I felt that the OP wanted to tell me "What else do you want to know? Do you have the answer for me or not?"

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Feb 26, 2024 12:41:58   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
Aperture information is typically about getting sufficient DOF, which is an optical/geometric issue and has nothing to do with how bright the scene was. The only element of uncertainty is related to how far away the focus point was, but usually it's fairly obvious. Shutter speed is typically all about using a fast enough shutter speed so as to avoid motion blur and/or camera shake, which is a speed of movement issue and/or a focal length issue. Again, that has nothing to do with how bright the scene was.

The point is, it should be possible to learn from sensibly chosen settings almost every time. The exceptions to that are mostly when circumstances make things difficult, such as when light is very low, subject movement is very fast or super-telephoto focal lengths are being used. Dealing with difficult situations isn't the best way to get a handle on basic requirements, so to begin with a learner should be encouraged to focus on the simpler stuff and leave the trickier stuff till later.

In that context a learner would have much to learn from sensibly chosen settings.

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Feb 26, 2024 12:43:55   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DWU2 wrote:
I've never seen the point when photo magazines and other publications like Arizona Highways print the shutter speed, f/stop, ISO, and lens information regarding the photos they take. Is this supposed to be educational? The settings were good for that particular time on that particular day, but maybe not so good at other times. They usually don't mention if a tripod was used. Am I missing something?


For many photographers who do not apparently have the knowledge you have that information is something of a starting point. New photographers who may not understand the exposure triangle will use the information to take a photograph and then make adjustments until the photograph suits them and their idea of the correct exposure.

I think it is as simple as that. I feel the need to ask why posting the information seems to bother you. You aren't bound to that information are you? Have you noticed many members here will see a photo they like and then will ask the photographer what the exposure information was.

Dennis

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