Trumpers Won’t Like This (Page 2): In the primary, there are other choices. But given a majority of Republicans per the polls still believe Trump, it is probably just a wasted hope on...

rwoodvira

btbg wrote:

That's fine, but what's the alternative. Trump is up 50 percent in the latest Republican primary polls, so there is no alternative there. Biden is still the only candidate on the Democrat side, and that's clearly worse policy wise than Trump, so what alternative would you suggest?

In the primary, there are other choices. But given a majority of Republicans per the polls still believe Trump, it is probably just a wasted hope on my part.

I wonder what will happen if Trump gets convicted in Georgia, pretty tough to serve in a Georgia jail if he's elected.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

btbg wrote:

That's fine, but what's the alternative. Trump is up 50 percent in the latest Republican primary polls, so there is no alternative there. Biden is still the only candidate on the Democrat side, and that's clearly worse policy wise than Trump, so what alternative would you suggest?

It only takes a few well placed comments from previous backers of trump to start to turn the tide on trump's alleged support.

Remember that there were death threats aimed towards GOP Senators during the second Impeachment trial in the Senate, which kept additional Senators from voting to "convict" trump.

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/lawmakers-threatened-ahead-of-impeachment-trial-for-former-president-donald-trump/

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/535630-multiple-threats-against-members-of-congress-being-investigated-before-trump/

So the brave folks out there have got to stand up to trump, and tell him that his rhetoric is no longer wanted in any elected office. It's long past time for trump to crawl back to where he came from before his infamous ride down his golden escalator on June 16, 2015.

As many have stated in the past, polls don't tell the real picture.

Former trump supporters have to lie about their their loyalties are in 2023 / 2024, or they'd be getting threats from family members and friends.

Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.

rwoodvira wrote:

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Trump is certainly not my first choice and I too fear a second Trump term will be a disaster on many different levels, as he will seek revenge and the democrats will do everything within their power to destroy his presidency, we have seen that democrats are ruthless as well is their media... Having said that I will still vote for Trump before I would even consider a second Biden term.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

jcboy3 wrote:

Trump is pro-Russia and anti-Nato and that's just a big no.

Trump keeps lying about the 2020 election, and that's just a big no.

That is your OPINION. Long on innuendo, woefully short on factual evidence.

But then J. Biden and “The Family” are supposedly tied to China. . . .

Which is worse?

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

"That is your OPINION. Long on innuendo, woefully short on factual evidence."

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Blurryeyed wrote:

Trump is certainly not my first choice and I too fear a second Trump term will be a disaster on many different levels, as he will seek revenge and the democrats will do everything within their power to destroy his presidency, we have seen that democrats are ruthless as well is their media... Having said that I will still vote for Trump before I would even consider a second Biden term.

trump destroyed his own presidency!

dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida

btbg wrote:

That's fine, but what's the alternative? Trump is up 50 percent in the latest Republican primary polls, so there is no alternative there. Biden is still the only candidate on the Democrat side, and that's clearly worse policy wise than Trump, so what alternative would you suggest?

"what's the alternative?" That gallows they had made for Pence, is it still around? Many awaiting sentencing for insurrection would volunteer to hold Trump high.

FrumCA

jcboy3 wrote:

"Biden fily".

I've heard of filly, but didn't realize Biden was into horses.

Trump is a crook. Worse than Nixon. But Republicans had spine, and opposed Nixon. Today, Republicans are wimpy wanna-be fascists.

I don't like Republicans, because all they seem concerned about is limiting personal freedom.

It would be fair to say that i don't support Democrats becuse they all support feel good but do no good give away programs and pollicies that cost money we don't have.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

FrumCA wrote:

It would be fair to say that i don't support Democrats becuse they all support feel good but do no good give away programs and pollicies that cost money we don't have.

So it would also be fair to say that I don't support Pubs because they all support trump.

Canisdirus

Trump is not a likable person...and I never voted for him.

But that's a far cry from voting for the Democrat Party...whose policies are nonsensical and damaging.

Trump ran a great economy...and tamped down all of our wars...did not start any...and our enemies took a breath while he was in office.

He handed an economy off...after the Covid economy drop...fully recovered economy to Biden....GDP growing at over 6% and an inflation rate of 1.5%.

Biden threw it all away...for politics...not based on a better way...just the opposite.

If he runs again...I will hold my nose and vote for him this time.

The wheels have completely gone off the Democrat Party...until they right their own ship and clean house...no thanks...the country cannot afford much more damage...at home and abroad.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

LOl, another true genius checks in.

Tinker

Whoever we elect, that person will have to deal with other world heads of state, good or bad. It is only my opinion that Trump, while exhibiting some rather unsavory characteristics and mannerisms, is far and away more awake than Biden, and will be firmly in control of his White House, while the Biden White House is being controlled by persons unknown, or at least unidentified to the public. Trump is hard to get along with, and in my view that is a strength , since there are so many in the DC world that are simply self-serving, caring only for their own place on the ladder (with some exceptions such as Mike Pompeo). It is historically true that during Trump's term there were few genuine challenges to us, while during Biden's term they are all over - the border, the economy, the size of the US military, the aggression of the Iranians and even those little nobodies in Yemen. Blue states' large cities are largely out of control so far as criminal activity is concerned, and the FBI is operating its own little empire at the expense of anyone who doesn't play Biden Ball. The American people, regardless of background, ethnicity, wealth, etc., are pretty perceptive, and they don't like what they see in the government today. Having millions of unknowns in the country, and paying them to be here, is a direct insult to the many Americans who are having a hard time due to Bidenomics, despite what little Bobblehead in the press room says to the contrary. In short, this country is in a seriously bad position, and it needs someone who can direct things to get it back on track - even the polls show it. It may not be pleasant and certainly will rub many the wrong way, but we collectively have allowed ourselves to get in this mess and it simply has to be fixed or we won't have our country much longer. China is salivating over our problems, just waiting to control WestPac, Russia is just waiting until Ukraine runs out of weapons and will walk in and do nobody knows what to the population there, and the flood of potential - even likely - illegals (yes, they are illegal) with designs on creating havoc here continues. So for those who hate Trump, take a hard, honest look at where he has led this nation. Do we really want to continue down this road? I think not, and the negative points associated with Donald Trump simply don't outweigh the ineptitude of Joe Biden. Biden is the victim of old age and brain degeneration, which probably none of us would wish on anybody, but we simply cannot afford to let him continue running this country as the figurehead for known leftists. It has been tried and it doesn't work in any nation in history. So let's take a deep breath and put somebody with backbone, even unpleasant backbone, back in charge to see it he can straighten this river of government like Paul Bunyan and his Blue Ox did in the story.

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

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I agree with 98% of what these former administration secretaries/directors/confidants/staffers conclude regarding Trump’s fitness to lead this nation. Unfortunately, I am of the opinion that the liberal media, democrat politicians, the policies of the current administration do more to bolster support for trump that his words could ever do. As long as there is a large segment of America who feels their voice is no longer heard then they will support someone they feel will give them that voice. As much as Trump has failed, as Kelley said post George Floyd, to be a uniting force in our nation, the same can be said of the left who allowed a fringe element to capture and control the narrative relative to systemic racism. From this over reaction we saw tens of millions of dollars flow into the fraudulent BLM organization, the cry for defund the police, policies that have proliferated the “Ferguson Effect,” over saturation and representation of African Americans in television advertising and magazine covers. Disproportionality in appointments and elected offices, etc. We saw the left again (they are very good at it) capture the narrative in attempting to mainstream a mental disorder (transgenderism) that affects less than 1% of the population. They have created a narrative where everyone is either an oppressor or oppressed. That coupled with the tragedy of our porous southern border and I am afraid that many will role the dice with the orange man as opposed to taking a chance being governed by the costal elitists who initiate policies that further disenfranchise the middle class from the American dream.

Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!

jcboy3 wrote:

Trump is pro-Russia and anti-Nato and that's just a big no.

Trump keeps lying about the 2020 election, and that's just a big no.

That’s a lie, Trump strengthened NATO and opposed giving Russia the Nord Stream II pipeline which Biden supported. How is that Anti-NATO and pro-Russia? When did Russia invade Ukraine? Oh, when Biden became president.

Triple G

Racmanaz wrote:

That’s a lie, Trump strengthened NATO and opposed giving Russia the Nord Stream II pipeline which Biden supported. How is that Anti-NATO and pro-Russia? When did Russia invade Ukraine? Oh, when Biden became president.

Go look at trump's plans -- what us his plan for NATO?