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Rump Pressures Michigan to NOT certify his 2020 loss?
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Dec 22, 2023 11:56:11   #
ArtzDarkroom Loc: Near Disneyland-Orange County, California
 
Apparently, Rump pressured more election results than previously known. lol

I'm sure he was just checking in to see how the election was going in his favor... lol

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Dec 22, 2023 16:06:53   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
He's a true patriot and Constitutionalist.

Yeah, right.

Just like his cult.

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Dec 23, 2023 06:52:35   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
It is insane to think this moron is the best the Republican's can offer and they follow him like lemmings off the cliff of his own proverbial making! You can't make this crap up!
The world watches as half of Americans show that democracy is not important, while we preach to them that it is the only way to freedom......
Wag the dog.....wag the dog.

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Dec 23, 2023 06:58:01   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
It is insane to think this moron is the best the Republican's can offer and they follow him like lemmings off the cliff of his own proverbial making! You can't make this crap up!
The world watches as half of Americans show that democracy is not important, while we preach to them that it is the only way to freedom......
Wag the dog.....wag the dog.




Just as insane as the Dems choice, a true maroon!

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Dec 23, 2023 09:30:08   #
jcboy3
 
ArtzDarkroom wrote:
Apparently, Rump pressured more election results than previously known. lol

I'm sure he was just checking in to see how the election was going in his favor... lol


Trump and Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDanial were recorded promising to get lawyers for two Wayne County canvassers if they would not sign certification documents.

Surely this is bribery.


According to The Detroit News

"McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

To which Trump added: "We'll take care of that.""

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/21/donald-trump-recorded-pressuring-wayne-canvassers-not-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/

Surely this constitutes bribery, per federal law:

"18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

(c) Whoever—
(1) otherwise than as provided by law for the proper discharge of official duty—
(A) directly or indirectly gives, offers, or promises anything of value to any public official, former public official, or person selected to be a public official, for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such public official, former public official, or person selected to be a public official; ...

shall be fined under this title or not more than three times the monetary equivalent of the thing of value, whichever is greater, or imprisoned for not more than fifteen years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201


And right there, do you not have the basis for disqualification of Trump as President?


Slam dunk!

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Dec 23, 2023 10:02:07   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DaveO wrote:


Just as insane as the Dems choice, a true maroon!


Get that you don't like Biden, but am still confused as to how you can make such a comparison.
I am absolutely convinced that if Biden loses this election, he will leave when and how expected. If he wins, I'm convinced that when that term is over, he will leave peacefully. Do you feel as assured that Trump will do the same?

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Dec 23, 2023 10:12:23   #
Triple G
 
jcboy3 wrote:
Trump and Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDanial were recorded promising to get lawyers for two Wayne County canvassers if they would not sign certification documents.

Surely this is bribery.


According to The Detroit News

"McDaniel, a Michigan native and the leader of the Republican Party nationally, said at another point in the call, "If you can go home tonight, do not sign it. ... We will get you attorneys."

To which Trump added: "We'll take care of that.""

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2023/12/21/donald-trump-recorded-pressuring-wayne-canvassers-not-to-certify-2020-vote-michigan/72004514007/

Surely this constitutes bribery, per federal law:

"18 U.S. Code § 201 - Bribery of public officials and witnesses

(c) Whoever—
(1) otherwise than as provided by law for the proper discharge of official duty—
(A) directly or indirectly gives, offers, or promises anything of value to any public official, former public official, or person selected to be a public official, for or because of any official act performed or to be performed by such public official, former public official, or person selected to be a public official; ...

shall be fined under this title or not more than three times the monetary equivalent of the thing of value, whichever is greater, or imprisoned for not more than fifteen years, or both, and may be disqualified from holding any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/201


And right there, do you not have the basis for disqualification of Trump as President?


Slam dunk!
Trump and Republican National Committee Chairwoman... (show quote)


Certainly election interference!

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Dec 23, 2023 11:07:22   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
thom w wrote:
Get that you don't like Biden, but am still confused as to how you can make such a comparison.
I am absolutely convinced that if Biden loses this election, he will leave when and how expected. If he wins, I'm convinced that when that term is over, he will leave peacefully. Do you feel as assured that Trump will do the same?


Don't try to over think it.

They both emit foul odors.

Both parties can do better.

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Dec 23, 2023 11:11:38   #
McKinneyMike Loc: Texas
 
DaveO wrote:


Just as insane as the Dems choice, a true maroon!


I agree, but at least one is the sitting President, while the other tried to be King!

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Dec 23, 2023 11:21:12   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
I agree, but at least one is the sitting President, while the other tried to be King!


Lol, the contest of who stinks the most is easily won by trump, but my thought is that both parties are extremely remiss. Just another reason why I distanced myself from both after many years as a Pub.

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Dec 23, 2023 11:30:18   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DaveO wrote:
Lol, the contest of who stinks the most is easily won by trump, but my thought is that both parties are extremely remiss. Just another reason why I distanced myself from both after many years as a Pub.


Unfortunately what is needed to be the best candidate is much different than what is needed to be the best president. The candidate's only job is to win the election. The president is expected to actually run the country, but must first be the most successful candidate. I'm not suggesting a fix. There probably isn't one.

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Dec 23, 2023 12:02:28   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
It is insane to think this moron is the best the Republican's can offer and they follow him like lemmings off the cliff of his own proverbial making! You can't make this crap up!
The world watches as half of Americans show that democracy is not important, while we preach to them that it is the only way to freedom......
Wag the dog.....wag the dog.


Why do people use the stupid nonsensical phrase "You can't make this (stuff)crap up"? Such an idiotic statement.

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Dec 23, 2023 12:07:02   #
Racmanaz Loc: Sunny Tucson!
 
McKinneyMike wrote:
It is insane to think this moron is the best the Republican's can offer and they follow him like lemmings off the cliff of his own proverbial making! You can't make this crap up!
The world watches as half of Americans show that democracy is not important, while we preach to them that it is the only way to freedom......
Wag the dog.....wag the dog.


Democracy is not important to half of Americans? For one, that statement (claim) has no validity to it. Secondly, you must be talking about the Democrats who want to put Trump in jail before the 2024 Presidential election and also trying to force Trump off state ballots so "we the people" will not have the choice to put a check mark on their ballot for Trump. Talk about democracy not important to Democrats. Hate Trump all you want, that's fine by me, I don't like him much either but I don't want to remove him from ballots nor anyone else for that matter.

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Dec 23, 2023 12:23:57   #
DaveO Loc: Northeast CT
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Democracy is not important to half of Americans? For one, that statement (claim) has no validity to it. Secondly, you must be talking about the Democrats who want to put Trump in jail before the 2024 Presidential election and also trying to force Trump off state ballots so "we the people" will not have the choice to put a check mark on their ballot for Trump. Talk about democracy not important to Democrats. Hate Trump all you want, that's fine by me, I don't like him much either but I don't want to remove him from ballots nor anyone else for that matter.
Democracy is not important to half of Americans? F... (show quote)


He should be given another chance to overthrow the vote of the people.

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Dec 23, 2023 12:28:22   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Racmanaz wrote:
Democracy is not important to half of Americans? For one, that statement (claim) has no validity to it. Secondly, you must be talking about the Democrats who want to put Trump in jail before the 2024 Presidential election and also trying to force Trump off state ballots so "we the people" will not have the choice to put a check mark on their ballot for Trump. Talk about democracy not important to Democrats. Hate Trump all you want, that's fine by me, I don't like him much either but I don't want to remove him from ballots nor anyone else for that matter.
Democracy is not important to half of Americans? F... (show quote)


I don't like him much either but I don't want to remove him from ballots nor anyone else for that matter.

So now Biden is OK with you?

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