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Dec 12, 2023 05:53:43   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Bob Smith wrote:
After the Christmas present to Putin cancellation of backing for the Ukraine are we letting Putin win, and then when he has won will he after success regroup and carry on to Latvia and the other Baltic states that are in NATO and then the US will have to get involved. At the moment someone else is doing the dying and fighting for us instead of our troops being killed and maimed. Surely it's better to back Ukraine now where the cost will be considerably less than a future conflict which would be considerably more expensive in both money and lives.
After the Christmas present to Putin cancellation ... (show quote)


Is this not an EU problem? How is it that many of the EU countries do not meet their military spending commitments to the NATO agreement and when problems arise they look to the US to take the lead and bulk of the financing... In case you have not noticed the US is broke, actually bankrupt. This is not a US problem it is an EU problem and it is long past time that you turn to the US taxpayers to handle your problems.

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Dec 12, 2023 07:13:06   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Is this not an EU problem? How is it that many of the EU countries do not meet their military spending commitments to the NATO agreement and when problems arise they look to the US to take the lead and bulk of the financing... In case you have not noticed the US is broke, actually bankrupt. This is not a US problem it is an EU problem and it is long past time that you turn to the US taxpayers to handle your problems.

And what are the financial situations of the rest of the NATO member countries?

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Dec 12, 2023 07:42:19   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
And what are the financial situations of the rest of the NATO member countries?


The EU economy is close to parity with the US.

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Dec 12, 2023 07:47:08   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The EU economy is close to parity with the US.

Yup, in financial crisis!

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Dec 12, 2023 07:47:47   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
The EU economy is close to parity with the US.


As a percent if GDP we are pretty far down the list compared to other countries ….


https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27331.jpeg



It’s a good thing blurry wasn’t in charge on 1939 isn’t it ?

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Dec 12, 2023 09:11:11   #
wilpharm Loc: Oklahoma
 
DennyT wrote:
As a percent if GDP we are pretty far down the list compared to other countries ….


https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27331.jpeg



It’s a good thing blurry wasn’t in charge on 1939 isn’t it ?


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Dec 12, 2023 09:29:52   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
thom w wrote:
Actually you are showing your lack of reading comprehension once again I said that about the alleged pharmacist who jumps up and says me to, whenever you post something. If I accidently posted it to you (I don't think I did) I didn't mean to.


princess you really need to pay more attention to your own reading comprehension. It just plain sucks. How in the hell could you accidentally post it to me??? This is a public forum. Whatever you posted goes to ALL of us, to EVERYONE. Did you really not know that little tidbit of information? You should have little girl. Maybe you have just been thinking of Christmas presents coming up for you. I am sure you have new dresses coming, probably some new make up to impress those Special Left Wingers on your list, maybe new undies. Who knows?

But here's the thing. No matter who you posted to I read it just as if it was posted to me. Alleged pharmacist you tell us. Hmmmmm, are you talking about wilpharm? I don't think he is an alleged pharmacist, probably a real pharmacist. What are you, an alleged light bulb changer at a local hospital? Do you hold the bulb and 6 Left Wingers turn the ladder? Remember, righty righty-lefty loosey.

The interesting thing is after you posted your, Me too, Me too, BS it is just as I predicted. Those on the Left felt the need to jump in with their own Me too versions. The Left Wing lemmings following along. Now where the hell is a convenient cliff when you need one?

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2023 09:41:01   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Bob Smith wrote:
Just a reminder Putin must think the US resolve is fading and if he sees a weakness he will exploit it. Don't forget the US is a member of NATO and will have to assist any NATO allies that are attacked unless the US ignores the treaty. We are lucky someone else is fighting what is basically our war against Putin. I'm sure any of you guys who have served and been in a genuine live fire situation will appreciate that we don't want our kids or grandkids to experience it. Just remembered what a looney tune fanatic Putin.
Just a reminder Putin must think the US resolve is... (show quote)


I am not completely against what you posted and completely agree about not wanting my granddaughters to experience a war. Yes I have been there and done that a couple of times. But I was a guy and couldn't wait to get into the thick of a war for all it entailed. Of course I was not alone and millions of America's finest were there beside me in numerous wars and skirmishes across the globe.

But what war do we have with Putin other than the ongoing America-Russia war of words since the 50's? I know of no active war with Russia.

I do know of Iran being 100% all in and contributing to attacks on our bases in the Middle East. But then we have a President who doesn't even talk a good game and actively does less to stop these attacks. In the past America has had a couple of Presidents with balls who took swift action to deal with these attacks. But not today, not now.

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2023 09:50:58   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
And what are the financial situations of the rest of the NATO member countries?


Maybe you should tell us. My concern is what about America's financial situation? Even your hero, Biden, has said our 155 howitzer ammunition is getting too low for America's needs. For one thing, broadcasting America not being in a good position to defend the country is pretty asinine and stupid if you ask me. He may as well have said, we have nothing to defend the country now China, Russia and Iran, come and take what you want. But aside from that little to large bit of Biden IDIOCY, there is the fact we can't supply our own needs regarding war materiel because we are giving it away to Ukraine. Shouldn't America's needs come first no matter what?

Yes I am all for supporting Ukraine but at what cost to America, what cost to We the People? We seem to be running out of money for our own country. We have homeless veterans living on the streets. So what does the Left Wing Biden do, gives up hotel accommodations to Millions of ILLEGAL ALIENS rather than our own people.

You on the Left TELL us there are jobs available for these illegal aliens and yet none of them seem interested in working. Hell, why should they be interested when America ships them to all parts of the country and then puts them up in high dollar hotels. Even someone not speaking English would rapidly catch on, What me worry, me WORK? Oh No, No, No. Uncle Joe will take care of me.

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2023 09:52:16   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
DennyT wrote:
As a percent if GDP we are pretty far down the list compared to other countries ….


https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27331.jpeg



It’s a good thing blurry wasn’t in charge on 1939 isn’t it ?


I am glad you were not in charge, EVER. Take a good look at your sentence. WHAT???????

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2023 09:53:37   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
wilpharm wrote:
????????


You got that right.

I can't wait for our own little princess to chime in with Me TOO. Then will follow, krackhead, lil tex, little francine and so on.

Dennis

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Dec 12, 2023 10:04:10   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Is this not an EU problem? How is it that many of the EU countries do not meet their military spending commitments to the NATO agreement and when problems arise they look to the US to take the lead and bulk of the financing... In case you have not noticed the US is broke, actually bankrupt. This is not a US problem it is an EU problem and it is long past time that you turn to the US taxpayers to handle your problems.


What heartbreak in WWII might have been saved if people such as yourself hadn't kept us out until Pearl Harbor. "America First" You and Lindbergh, and maybe Chamberlain, until the wheels fall off. Just what would have to happen for you to believe that maybe Russia's aggression was our concern? If we wait till they are on our shores, it will be much more expensive, and it may be too late, and you are younger than I so you will have to live with it, and good luck with your retirement.

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Dec 12, 2023 10:11:48   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
DennyT wrote:
As a percent if GDP we are pretty far down the list compared to other countries ….


https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/27331.jpeg



It’s a good thing blurry wasn’t in charge on 1939 isn’t it ?


We know he would have been in Lindbergh's club and would have supported Chamberlain.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee

Blurry doesn't understand that "what's in it for me" are not the words of a patriot.

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Dec 12, 2023 10:12:52   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
wilpharm wrote:
????????


At least you are starting to admit it when things are over your head.

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Dec 12, 2023 10:19:22   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
princess you really need to pay more attention to your own reading comprehension. It just plain sucks. How in the hell could you accidentally post it to me??? This is a public forum. Whatever you posted goes to ALL of us, to EVERYONE. Did you really not know that little tidbit of information? You should have little girl. Maybe you have just been thinking of Christmas presents coming up for you. I am sure you have new dresses coming, probably some new make up to impress those Special Left Wingers on your list, maybe new undies. Who knows?

But here's the thing. No matter who you posted to I read it just as if it was posted to me. Alleged pharmacist you tell us. Hmmmmm, are you talking about wilpharm? I don't think he is an alleged pharmacist, probably a real pharmacist. What are you, an alleged light bulb changer at a local hospital? Do you hold the bulb and 6 Left Wingers turn the ladder? Remember, righty righty-lefty loosey.

The interesting thing is after you posted your, Me too, Me too, BS it is just as I predicted. Those on the Left felt the need to jump in with their own Me too versions. The Left Wing lemmings following along. Now where the hell is a convenient cliff when you need one?

Dennis
princess you really need to pay more attention to ... (show quote)


You reading as though it were posted to you is your problem, and I don't have the training to help you with that.

I keep wondering when someone will finally realize you are brain dead and pull the plug. I don't know if you were a cop, or what type of a cop you were. I don't know if you were a screw, or an inmate, and what type of either you may have been. I do know what sort of a person you are, and it sickens me. Reply if you wish, but I've already wasted way over my quota of time set aside for you on you, and am unlikely to reply. I will focus my time on those still living.

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