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Dec 11, 2023 12:08:43   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
WTF are we responsible for the protection of the EU?


You and others that think this way need to read the following concerning the great need America has what is called conservative internationalism.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/case-conservative-internationalism

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Dec 11, 2023 12:33:12   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
You and others that think this way need to read the following concerning the great need America has what is called conservative internationalism.

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/case-conservative-internationalism


Yup just print and spend resources we don't have while allowing China to expand its international waters and control over Asia as we are totally unprepared to confront them.... If Putin and the Ukraine war were such a threat then the European nations would do more. As it is NATO only serves our arms industry and the military industrial complex, Eisenhower's warnings seemingly have gone unheeded.

The EU is perfectly happy to suck at the teats of the American taxpayers even though our treasury has run dry.

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Dec 11, 2023 13:03:36   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Yup just print and spend resources we don't have while allowing China to expand its international waters and control over Asia as we are totally unprepared to confront them.... If Putin and the Ukraine war were such a threat then the European nations would do more. As it is NATO only serves our arms industry and the military industrial complex, Eisenhower's warnings seemingly have gone unheeded.

The EU is perfectly happy to suck at the teats of the American taxpayers even though our treasury has run dry.
Yup just print and spend resources we don't have w... (show quote)


By the wording you obviously never bother reading the Foreign affairs piece I posted.
In addition you should actually research what EU and others are doing :

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-against-russia-over-ukraine/sanctions-against-russia-explained/

And

https://www.castellum.ai/insights/which-countries-are-taking-action-on-ukraine

It would be interesting to see what percent of our defense budget is our Ukraine support versus other countries .
I don’t know tigers but our is 4% , with no American blood spilt .

And finally, everything is not dollars and cents, there are actions America must do because of who we are and what we believe.

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Dec 11, 2023 13:22:35   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
BS! Trump tried to fill the reserves at $30/barrel, he proposed buying 92 million barrels but congress would not authorize the funding for the purchase.... Biden is an idiot, he used the reserves to keep his polling from going into the toilet and now he is faced with the problem of having the lowest reserves in decades as he tinkers around with two wars and possibly a third walking the edge of WWIII.

Don't act as if Biden is somehow a smart president, he is a dithering fool.




Dennis

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Dec 11, 2023 19:24:19   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
By the wording you obviously never bother reading the Foreign affairs piece I posted.
In addition you should actually research what EU and others are doing :

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-against-russia-over-ukraine/sanctions-against-russia-explained/

And

https://www.castellum.ai/insights/which-countries-are-taking-action-on-ukraine

It would be interesting to see what percent of our defense budget is our Ukraine support versus other countries .
I don’t know tigers but our is 4% , with no American blood spilt .

And finally, everything is not dollars and cents, there are actions America must do because of who we are and what we believe.
By the wording you obviously never bother reading ... (show quote)


I read it, it was little more than a prop piece for Raytheon.

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Dec 11, 2023 20:14:37   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Wyantry wrote:
If we (the U.S.) is sending all that ammunition to Ukraine, then that would mean even more people are being employed manufacturing the “goods”.

A great “plus” for Biden and the liberal democrat-socialists, right?


What we are sending Ukrain is older arms that we are replacing in our stockpile with more modern ones.

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Dec 11, 2023 20:15:38   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I read it, it was little more than a prop piece for Raytheon.


Apparently Raytheon isn't one of your holdings.

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Dec 12, 2023 05:42:45   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
DennyT wrote:
By the wording you obviously never bother reading the Foreign affairs piece I posted.
In addition you should actually research what EU and others are doing :

https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/policies/sanctions/restrictive-measures-against-russia-over-ukraine/sanctions-against-russia-explained/

And

https://www.castellum.ai/insights/which-countries-are-taking-action-on-ukraine

It would be interesting to see what percent of our defense budget is our Ukraine support versus other countries .
I don’t know tigers but our is 4% , with no American blood spilt .

And finally, everything is not dollars and cents, there are actions America must do because of who we are and what we believe.
By the wording you obviously never bother reading ... (show quote)


I keep hearing this 4% number out there, must be that new math as I am pretty sure that we have spent in excess of $100 billion in aid to the Ukraine, apparently we are not only funding the war but we a paying government workers and pensions, how benevolent of us.... Of course there are cities and towns here in the states that could use that funding but they are not even a thought of this administration. This country has its own problems that go unaddressed, it is time to let the EU fully handle the Ukraine.

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Dec 12, 2023 06:50:19   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
As we all KNOW, the lowering of fuel prices was nothing but bullshit. They may have been lowered for a few days and only for a few pennies at best. One would think any POTUS would be a bit smarter than to give up oil reserves for his own country for a momentary minuscule drop in price. But NOOOOOOOO, not the complete dumb SOB, POS Biden. Doesn't he have some advisers who might have a bit of common sense? Apparently NOT.

So now America has minimal oil reserves while Biden's Butt Buddy, his swooning Chinese Daddy, is swimming in American oil reserves. I can't help but wonder if that isn't exactly how Joe and Hunter Biden planned it all along. Maybe that is why the entire Biden family received checks for millions of dollars.

Apparently this does not bother you or other lying corrupt Left Wingers. I wonder IF Trump had done this exact same thing it would bother you on the Left.

Dennis
As we all KNOW, the lowering of fuel prices was no... (show quote)

So, would you have rather had the oil reserves replenished while the price of oil was high, or during a downturn in prices?

I don't know about you, but it seems like the smarter financial choice for the United States was to wait for a downturn in the cost of oil!

Right now the demand for fuel is down from the summer use levels, which tends to drop the cost of oil.

Remember the old adage, supply and demand?

If there isn't enough supply when demand is high, prices tend to go up.

Now that the demand is lower, prices are heading back down again.

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Dec 12, 2023 06:53:54   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And there you have it folks, a perfect example of DEFLECTION by the Left. Triple G can't explain his position in simple terms but tells me I am full of shit.

Dennis

Actually it's your perfect deflection on the right, because you refuse to post a single source to back up your claims of bs by others, which your full of most of the time!

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Dec 12, 2023 06:59:45   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
LOL, so Slo is buying 2.7 million barrels of oil to replace the 180 million barrels he released..... And you have the nalgas to act as if it is some sort of windfall for the American taxpayers.

The 2.7 million barrels is just the start in the replenishment process.

You don't think that there'll be more purchases in the near future?

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Dec 12, 2023 07:03:41   #
Triple G
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
So, would you have rather had the oil reserves replenished while the price of oil was high, or during a downturn in prices?

I don't know about you, but it seems like the smarter financial choice for the United States was to wait for a downturn in the cost of oil!

Right now the demand for fuel is down from the summer use levels, which tends to drop the cost of oil.

Remember the old adage, supply and demand?

If there isn't enough supply when demand is high, prices tend to go up.

Now that the demand is lower, prices are heading back down again.
So, would you have rather had the oil reserves rep... (show quote)


USA is doing very well. So much for Dennis and Blurred's uninformed opinions.
https://www.iea.org/reports/oil-market-report-november-2023

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Dec 12, 2023 07:09:46   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
I keep hearing this 4% number out there, must be that new math as I am pretty sure that we have spent in excess of $100 billion in aid to the Ukraine, apparently we are not only funding the war but we a paying government workers and pensions, how benevolent of us.... Of course there are cities and towns here in the states that could use that funding but they are not even a thought of this administration. This country has its own problems that go unaddressed, it is time to let the EU fully handle the Ukraine.
I keep hearing this 4% number out there, must be t... (show quote)

Hummm, did you forget the Infrastructure Bill which IS investing in our Cities and Towns all across the country!

Bridges which used to take months or years, are being rebuild in mere days BECAUSE of the Infrastructure Bill!

What are your proposals for additional spending which you want sent to Cities and towns? Have any of those Cities and towns applied for funding or services since the Infrastructure Bill passed?

A few specifics to back up your bs claim are needed for context.

trump was never even close to getting an Infrastructure Bill out of committee, much less passed!

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Dec 12, 2023 07:14:14   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
So, would you have rather had the oil reserves replenished while the price of oil was high, or during a downturn in prices?

I don't know about you, but it seems like the smarter financial choice for the United States was to wait for a downturn in the cost of oil!

Right now the demand for fuel is down from the summer use levels, which tends to drop the cost of oil.

Remember the old adage, supply and demand?

If there isn't enough supply when demand is high, prices tend to go up.

Now that the demand is lower, prices are heading back down again.
So, would you have rather had the oil reserves rep... (show quote)


But it’s the president fault !!!!

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Dec 12, 2023 07:17:11   #
Triple G
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Hummm, did you forget the Infrastructure Bill which IS investing in our Cities and Towns all across the country!

Bridges which used to take months or years, are being rebuild in mere days BECAUSE of the Infrastructure Bill!

What are your proposals for additional spending which you want sent to Cities and towns? Have any of those Cities and towns applied for funding or services since the Infrastructure Bill passed?

A few specifics to back up your bs claim are needed for context.

trump was never even close to getting an Infrastructure Bill out of committee, much less passed!
Hummm, did you forget the Infrastructure Bill whic... (show quote)


Add in the inflation Reduction Act too.

https://www.newyorklifeinvestments.com/assets/documents/perspectives/investmentinsights-inflation-reduction-act-infrastructure.pdf

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