DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

I wonder how many America jobs are at stake while congress is. fighting over aid for Ukraine and Israel.
After all we are not sending money but ammo and equipment made in America.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Looking back in history of US based jobs at the time when the United States withdrew from wars where munitions and equipment had previously been flowing into war zones, would be a good indicator of past job losses at the end of US involvement in a war

It turns out that more jobs seem to be created in non-war times, than during the US's involvement with a war.

https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/economic/economy/employment

pendennis

To evoke some past economic times - During WWII little wealth was created. The United States remained in the Great Depression. It wasn't until 1946 that jobs were created to produce products which created wealth; i.e. major appliances, homes, automobiles, etc. During Viet Nam, LBJ tried spending money on guns and butter, but the economy was not smoking to supply both.

Expenditures for "guns" always mask the weaknesses in the economy. Right now, we're sending huge amounts of arms and ammo to Ukraine, where it will likely be wasted. Europe must step up to spread out the spending.

Wyantry Loc: SW Colorado

If we (the U.S.) is sending all that ammunition to Ukraine, then that would mean even more people are being employed manufacturing the “goods”.

A great “plus” for Biden and the liberal democrat-socialists, right?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Word has it, actually words FROM Biden, America has shortened its own supply of cannon ammunition such as for the 155mm Howitzer by sending that ammunition to Ukraine. How nice of our President to announce to the world America is short of wartime supplies.

No matter what happens in Ukraine it would SEEM to be more important that America is always at the ready to defend America and Americans. Maybe we should have brought back our wartime supplies Biden purposely left in Afghanistan.

America is now short of oil reserves. I can't help but wonder why Biden sold China our oil reserves. This is what happens when the Left elects a President without a working brain.

Dennis

Triple G

The why: Making $20 a barrel and lowering pump prices.
https://www.energy.gov/ceser/articles/us-department-energy-announces-solicitation-purchase-oil-strategic-petroleum-0

https://www.energy.gov/ceser/articles/biden-harris-administration-secures-good-deal-taxpayers-it-continues-replenish

Optimization of reserve level:
https://www.dallasfed.org/research/economics/2023/1003

US munitions readiness info.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3486053/dod-focuses-on-readiness-modernization-as-it-arms-ukraine/

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Our supply of older technology is being replaced with more up to date technology, but the appropriations bills need to keep pace with what's been shipped over to Ukraine, and the House is against protecting democracy, no matter where the fight happens to be.

Other than out of date, and disabled equipment, exactly what do you believe should have been shipped out of Afghanistan in the short amount of time, and without sufficient amount of military funding, personnel, and aircraft to physically ship all of that old equipment out of Afghanistan? Remember that it was trump who set up the unrealistic Afghanistan withdrawal timeline, not President Biden.

With regards to our Strategic Oil Reserves, we're in the process of restoring them now.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/us-speeds-up-return-oil-strategic-petroleum-reserve-energy-dept-2023-12-01/

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

As we all KNOW, the lowering of fuel prices was nothing but bullshit. They may have been lowered for a few days and only for a few pennies at best. One would think any POTUS would be a bit smarter than to give up oil reserves for his own country for a momentary minuscule drop in price. But NOOOOOOOO, not the complete dumb SOB, POS Biden. Doesn't he have some advisers who might have a bit of common sense? Apparently NOT.

So now America has minimal oil reserves while Biden's Butt Buddy, his swooning Chinese Daddy, is swimming in American oil reserves. I can't help but wonder if that isn't exactly how Joe and Hunter Biden planned it all along. Maybe that is why the entire Biden family received checks for millions of dollars.

Apparently this does not bother you or other lying corrupt Left Wingers. I wonder IF Trump had done this exact same thing it would bother you on the Left.

Dennis

Triple G

Your assessment of the situations prove you to be devoid of facts and reason and just caught up in the lies and parroting of the right propaganda networks.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Well let's get real shall we. Biden as POTUS could have made other arrangements to allow for time enough to bring that military materiel back to America or at least to American bases perhaps in Europe. He could have done something to mitigate our losses of war materiel to the enemy. But he didn't.

It is an idiotic Left Wing Bullshit comment to continue to blame Trump. He was not the POTUS at the time was he? Had he been reelected then all of this would have been on his watch. That is a given. I would have blamed him for the very things I now blame on Dumb Ass Biden. But Biden was POTUS wasn't he, not Trump. Every bit of this is on Biden's watch. Surely Biden would have had one of his staffers who knew something, fat chance of that happening eh, read Trump's withdrawal paperwork and make any needed changes to suit his agenda. But apparently Biden did not do that did he? There is no reason to blame Trump for this F'd Up Fiasco in the thought process of IDIOCY.

Yes of course we are in the process of restoring the oil reserves now. But wouldn't it have been nice to have simply kept them in America's reserve to begin with?

How nice you on the Left are able to continue making excuses for the dumb ass comments and actions taken by a dementia bound idiot, Biden.

Dennis

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Well then set me straight with YOUR facts. I will be right here waiting patiently. Also do try to show unequivocally where my facts are wrong and yours are correct.

Dennis

Triple G

See the sources I provided --- versus the sources you provided=none. Note your hyperbolic overreaction.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

NOTE your bullshit and deflection.

Dennis

Triple G

You've lost when you call reliable sources bs and deflection(versus your none).

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Everybody has their links to post and many have exact opposite links for their personal position. Links prove nothing to me. Yet you on the Left use them in vast numbers rather than to simply explain your position as I do.

Dennis