What size memory cards do you normally use?
Dec 10, 2023 14:03:42 #
TriX wrote:
Just to clarify. If the card comes pre formatted, and it’s 2GB or under, it’s likely formatted with FAT16, if 32GB or under, it’s likely FAT32, and if larger, ExFAT. The downside of formatting on a PC is that it defaults to an NTFS file system (unless you specify otherwise), which many cameras do not support.
And probably more differences to come in the future.
Nice explanation. Sure beats a simple "don't do it" (or "do it", as the comment may be).
Dec 10, 2023 14:29:40 #
TriX wrote:
Just to clarify. If the card comes pre formatted, and it’s 2GB or under, it’s likely formatted with FAT16, if 32GB or under, it’s likely FAT32, and if larger, ExFAT. The downside of formatting on a PC is that it defaults to an NTFS file system (unless you specify otherwise), which many cameras do not support.
Right. The idea was to load in an NTFS card, which would require reformatting, to find out whether that camera would just fix it behind the scenes, or would it display the traditional announcement and await an "OK" from the user before proceeding.
Again, inquiring minds want to know, but dont intend to take even the very slightest physical action to find out ! Its a UHH Sacred Tradition.
Dec 10, 2023 14:39:03 #
User ID wrote:
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Again, inquiring minds want to know, but don't intend to take even the very slightest physical action to find out ! Its a UHH Sacred Tradition.
Again, inquiring minds want to know, but don't intend to take even the very slightest physical action to find out ! Its a UHH Sacred Tradition.
Hearsay wins a lot....
Dec 10, 2023 14:52:36 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
Let's take a minute to stop and think here. It is unlikely that any reputable manufacturer is going to ship a memory card targeted to sell for anywhere from $50 to $500 without some level of final testing. That testing is almost certainly going to involve some sort of formatting process so that the test machine can make sense of what has been written and read. But it is also likely that the process will be at least a little bit short of a full format, just from a time feasibility perspective.
So the question becomes really whether one is willing to trust the well-being of their photographs to whatever a final test machine might have last done to their fancy new memory card. I do not have sufficient faith and trust to do that.
So the question becomes really whether one is willing to trust the well-being of their photographs to whatever a final test machine might have last done to their fancy new memory card. I do not have sufficient faith and trust to do that.
Dec 10, 2023 15:02:03 #
larryepage wrote:
Let's take a minute to stop and think here. It is ... (show quote)
Valid reason,
instead of just following the crowd.
And then if the manufacturer only tested a portion of the cells and there was a problem with a particular batch, the world would certainly experience it and let everyone know. And there goes that manufacturer's integrity. But there is a thing called sample testing after 100% testing proves that they can. They did device sample testing (not a portion of the device) of components at Incoming Inspection for my one job as a Supplier Quality Engineer fot ICs and semiconductors.
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Dec 10, 2023 17:25:34 #
suterjo wrote:
Same here. It makes sense. Why would you do anything else??
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Dec 10, 2023 18:31:14 #
Longshadow wrote:
Valid reason, br instead of just following the cro... (show quote)
And it all depends on the manufacturer’s customer base, their internal standards, and certifications (if any). If you’re building parts sell to a defense contractor that requires ISO certifications and six sigma QC, if one part in your sample fails ANY of the tests, you may be required to inspect the entire lot for that specific defect, but if you’re selling into the consumer marketplace, any number of failures below a certain threshold (which the manufacturer decides) may mean the whole batch passes and ships. If your images are important and especially if you have a single card slot, you may choose to verify your storage media with more than a quick format or trust the manufacturer’s “format” and use the card out of the box (with no idea what the file system that you’re trusting your data to is)
Dec 10, 2023 18:51:21 #
TriX wrote:
And it all depends on the manufacturer’s customer ... (show quote)
Yes, they all go on statistics. Yes, we had occasions where 100% test at incoming was warranted. Sometimes no additional failures were found.
If the camera doesn't like the file system, would it not let you know?
e.g. :"Card needs formatting"/"Please format card".
Dec 10, 2023 19:11:20 #
User ID wrote:
True, but that raises reeeeeeally sooper ugglee other issues.
Its not that I despise my iphone camera.
I just despise my whole iphone, for every purpose imaginable. The interface SUCKS.
Its not that I despise my iphone camera.
I just despise my whole iphone, for every purpose imaginable. The interface SUCKS.
How do I love thee, iPhone, let me count the ways....🥰
Dec 11, 2023 07:40:57 #
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Have an D850 and a Z7ii, both of which ha a XQD/CFX slot and a SD slot. Use biggie for RAW and SD for jpeg.
Occasionally, 256/128, but usually 128/64. Works fine.
Occasionally, 256/128, but usually 128/64. Works fine.
Dec 11, 2023 13:27:26 #
srt101fan wrote:
You can avoid the whole issue by taking pictures with your smartphone camera. 🙄
My iphone has started taking pictures in HEIC and I have to convert them to JPEG. I haven't found out how to undo it. It's very irritating.
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