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Oct 7, 2023 15:34:10   #
BebuLamar
 
Blenheim Orange wrote:
Now that we have finished this week's installments of raw vs. JPEG and Canon vs. Nikon (hey what about Sony??), isn't it about time to revisit auto vs. manual, FF vs. cropped, prime vs. zoom...


What??? We are only 6 pages.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:03:46   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
aztecanoel53 wrote:
Which is better… mirror or mirror less… i’ve owned a canon and do like it… but have wondered if nikon is more user friendly?


The answer could also be neither, or both!

There's also Olympus, Fuji, Sony, Pentax/Ricoh, and others.

They support a variety of formats from micro 4/3 to medium format.

Any new models these days will be mirrorless, which is the way to go if you're starting from scratch.

For a starter, try a Nikon Z50 kit with 2 lenses and you'll be on your way - coming from a Nikon fanboy, but all of the mentioned brands have great offerings.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:10:10   #
chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Sony makes Nikon's high-end sensors. Nikon is doomed.


Dependence on Sony for anything spells doom (eventually), but I think once Nikon gets more in the black they will contract to other manufacturers (Toshiba? Those sensors in the D7xxx series are awesome!), or start up their own fab again, which is probably less likely in the next few years.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:20:09   #
kb6kgx Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The vast majority here will say that the only camera worth buying is the Nikon D850 and screw drive F mount lenses.


That or the Z9.

Very easy to spend someone else’s money.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:22:02   #
srt101fan
 
larryepage wrote:
I say it based on experience. I prefer Nikon cameras, but the D3xxx models are an affront to society. Discontinuing that line was one of the great services Nikon did for the world. The D5xxx models are a little better, but not much.

I had to use these two models at school until I finally convinced the administration to let me use my own cameras after 3 years.


Your obsessive dislike of the Nikon entry-level cameras is laughable. You should have learned by now that just because YOU don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s bad.

“Dollar for dollar, the Nikon D3500 is the best camera you can buy.”. (Ken Rockwell)

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Oct 7, 2023 16:22:07   #
Hip Coyote
 
Went all in on mirrorless. For some reason my wife’s image doesn’t show on a mirror. Weird.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:28:16   #
bobfitz Loc: Kendall-Miami, Florida
 
You are comparing what to what specifically? Nikon and Canon have produced countless cameras. They all have minor differences. I am lifelong Nikon user. I will never change due to my investment in lenses. However, you will hear the same argument from the other side. The lenses and quality thereof are the primary changes that should matter to you.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:30:26   #
User ID
 
Hip Coyote wrote:
Went all in on mirrorless. For some reason my wife’s image doesn’t show on a mirror. Weird.

You need double mirrors plus a 1/4 wave plate. Acoarst, the being thus made visible may shock you !

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Oct 7, 2023 16:34:28   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
srt101fan wrote:
Your obsessive dislike of the Nikon entry-level cameras is laughable. You should have learned by now that just because YOU don’t like something doesn’t mean it’s bad.

“Dollar for dollar, the Nikon D3500 is the best camera you can buy.”. (Ken Rockwell)


Ok. Still don't like them. But I don't like them based on my own experience, not on anyone else's Kool Ade. I do think its interesting that they were the first DSLR models discontinued several years ago, and that there are no replacements or even rumored replacements for them to this day. So I absolutely do not feel alone in my assessment of their relative goodness or badness.

I also never look to Ken Rockwell for any validation of anything I might think. I'm pretty sure that you could look into one of his ears and see all the way through to the other side.

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Oct 7, 2023 16:45:05   #
srt101fan
 
larryepage wrote:
Ok. Still don't like them. But I don't like them based on my own experience, not on anyone else's Kool Ade. I do think its interesting that they were the first DSLR models discontinued several years ago, and that there are no replacements or even rumored replacements for them to this day. So I absolutely do not feel alone in my assessment of their relative goodness or badness.

I also never look to Ken Rockwell for any validation of anything I might think. I'm pretty sure that you could look into one of his ears and see all the way through to the other side.
Ok. Still don't like them. But I don't like them b... (show quote)


“Since its release, the D5600 has received positive reviews. It received the Best DSLR Entry Level award at the TIPA Awards 2017, sponsored by the Technical Image Press Association.[8]” (Wikipedia)

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Oct 7, 2023 16:58:27   #
kbk
 
You own the wrong brand! Nikon is best.

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Oct 7, 2023 17:05:55   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
srt101fan wrote:
“Since its release, the D5600 has received positive reviews. It received the Best DSLR Entry Level award at the TIPA Awards 2017, sponsored by the Technical Image Press Association.[8]” (Wikipedia)


I've used one. It takes pictures. Color ones, even. Still don't like it. I'd rather dig out and use my old D300 or D300s.

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Oct 7, 2023 17:13:55   #
srt101fan
 
larryepage wrote:
I've used one. It takes pictures. Color ones, even. Still don't like it. I'd rather dig out and use my old D300 or D300s.


I don’t think your likes are all that important if you are unable to give objective and useful advice. I don’t like cooked broccoli. Nobody should eat that crap.

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Oct 7, 2023 17:51:57   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
srt101fan wrote:
I don’t think your likes are all that important if you are unable to give objective and useful advice. I don’t like cooked broccoli. Nobody should eat that crap.


I have done that several times, but will repeat here for you. Controls are too small and too close together. Too many important functions are accessible only via the menu, including ISO. Mirror instead of prism viewfinder. Only a single command dial (on the top/front) on many of the models, making manual exposure awkward and slow to accomplish. Batteries are too small. No grips available. No internal focus motor. Strap loops hard molded in the body (no swivel action). The list continues, but this should be enough to give you an idea.

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