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Sep 15, 2023 11:49:13   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
They impeached Trump for what Biden admitted to doing.

But that isn't the big thing. You are claiming that they are only investigating him because of politics and they have no evidence. Without an investigation there will never be evidence. How hard is that to understand.

There is more than enough evidence to warrant an investigation.

The family had at least 20 shell companies and at least nine of them received lots of money. Does that look OK to you?

On top of that plenty of evidence has been presented of both fbi and doj corruption and slow walking or obstructing investigations so of course you ha ent seen any evidence and you won't unless congress investigates.
They impeached Trump for what Biden admitted to do... (show quote)



Trumps second impeaching - yes purely political.
The first not. It was justified and if senators would have done thier job ….trump would have been guilty.

In any case you have you no supporting facts . That this is nothing but revenge politics and is being done for one purpose only . To weaken a political opponent in the next election.
As far the rest of your post: .
There is is no factual evidence only allegations at best with most being nothing more than political driven conspiracy.
For example is a shell company illegals- no!
As far as an investigation. It’s has been going on since gop took control of the house with absolutely nothing to show for it .

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Sep 15, 2023 11:52:17   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
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Sep 15, 2023 11:53:55   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
btbg wrote:
That's my point. Dennys is claiming that the investigation is a political witch hunt but there is lots of circumstantial evidence. There will never be proof that satisfies the left without an investigation but there is already far more proof than was ever used to impeach Trump.


The house has been investigating for 9 months with nothing to show for it.
This latest is nothing more than politics show.

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Sep 15, 2023 11:56:57   #
btbg
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
No, I am not.

Were charges brought after those "allegations"? ( I know, you are going to tell me that the FBI/Biden suppressed these allegations/testimonies. )


I believe that the majority of our government officials have gone "over the line" in trying to enrich themselves or in trying to gain power.

I don't like it but, as long as we keep voting the same crooks and cronies into office, this will not change.


On that we are in agreement.

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Sep 15, 2023 12:14:08   #
Triple G
 
btbg wrote:
That's my point. Dennys is claiming that the investigation is a political witch hunt but there is lots of circumstantial evidence. There will never be proof that satisfies the left without an investigation but there is already far more proof than was ever used to impeach Trump.


No one really knows that because there is no side by side comparison.

In the investigation of Trump's activities, there were enough suspicions confirmed by evidence to support a broader inquiry. There is disagreement on that, but it was determined so at that time.

For Biden, there are a couple of IRS agents (trump would call them "disgruntled former employees), Comer's allegations and unsupported to date hype and suspicious bank accounts and company set ups.

Whether it's enough depends on the shade of glasses viewing these things. I personally haven't seen anything that raises the level of suspicion to probable cause tying the President directly to Hunter's activities nor has anything come forward linking Hunter to anything illegal or even beyond trading in on his name that implicated the President. Archer's own testimony is more damning to the IRS and DOJ than to either Biden or son. There are a lot of fish to fry if solely trading in on a name is a crime.

Suspicion of what DOJ or IRS or any other agency has or has not done is related to their possible crime or mishandling but is not directly related to Biden or son's suspicious activities. Suspicions are not evidence.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50650216

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Sep 15, 2023 12:30:58   #
Howard5252 Loc: New York / Florida (now)
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
No there's not a 100% difference. Sometimes allegations can be evidence. If someone testifies he saw a murder, his statement is an allegation, but the statement itself is also evidence to investigate. It's not evidence to convict by itself but evidence to further investigate. They have statements from numerous witnesses alleging certain things.


Here's the problem with allegations ...
I allege that you have 3 million dollars worth of gold buried in your back yard. If I have a big enough megaphone and following, your back yard will be a very large ditch in the morning. When you come out and deny the allegation, I simply say "Dig deeper, the gold is there". The next morning your house will be on the edge of falling into the crater that used to be your back yard.
Allegations without proof can be very harmful. My allegation didn't cost me a nickel; it'll cost you several nickels to repair the damage to your yard. Allegations without proof cost FOX news, a network with a very large megaphone and following, approximately 16 billion nickels. You may still hear about voter fraud on Fox news but THEY WON'T BE TELLING EVERYONE THAT VOTING MACHINES WERE USED.
Sometimes it's not a backyard that gets destroyed, too many times it's people. Before you start or spread unfounded allegations ..... DON'T.

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Sep 15, 2023 12:56:02   #
btbg
 
Triple G wrote:
No one really knows that because there is no side by side comparison.

In the investigation of Trump's activities, there were enough suspicions confirmed by evidence to support a broader inquiry. There is disagreement on that, but it was determined so at that time.

For Biden, there are a couple of IRS agents (trump would call them "disgruntled former employees), Comer's allegations and unsupported to date hype and suspicious bank accounts and company set ups.

Whether it's enough depends on the shade of glasses viewing these things. I personally haven't seen anything that raises the level of suspicion to probable cause tying the President directly to Hunter's activities nor has anything come forward linking Hunter to anything illegal or even beyond trading in on his name that implicated the President. Archer's own testimony is more damning to the IRS and DOJ than to either Biden or son. There are a lot of fish to fry if solely trading in on a name is a crime.

Suspicion of what DOJ or IRS or any other agency has or has not done is related to their possible crime or mishandling but is not directly related to Biden or son's suspicious activities. Suspicions are not evidence.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50650216
No one really knows that because there is no side ... (show quote)


I agree that the evidence against the doj and fbi is stronger than the evidence against Biden. Nonetheless there is enty to warrant an investigation.

As to Hunter and crimes he was already charged with crimes. Those charges were only thrown out because of the way they did the sweetheart deal.

Based on the irs agents the most severe charges were allowed to run out the statute of limitations.

Five years investigating and now they charge him with felonies that they knew about at least five years ago because they are a matter of court record.

It srinks to high heavens. Hunters laptop proves multiple crimes by Hunter that he has never been charged with and the bank records are very suspicious.

I happen to bieve Hunter when he complIns to his sister that Joe was taking half his ince. That one statement alone makes an investigation reasonable.

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Sep 15, 2023 14:49:50   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Here's the problem with allegations ...
I allege that you have 3 million dollars worth of gold buried in your back yard. If I have a big enough megaphone and following, your back yard will be a very large ditch in the morning. When you come out and deny the allegation, I simply say "Dig deeper, the gold is there". The next morning your house will be on the edge of falling into the crater that used to be your back yard.
Allegations without proof can be very harmful. My allegation didn't cost me a nickel; it'll cost you several nickels to repair the damage to your yard. Allegations without proof cost FOX news, a network with a very large megaphone and following, approximately 16 billion nickels. You may still hear about voter fraud on Fox news but THEY WON'T BE TELLING EVERYONE THAT VOTING MACHINES WERE USED.
Sometimes it's not a backyard that gets destroyed, too many times it's people. Before you start or spread unfounded allegations ..... DON'T.
Here's the problem with allegations ... br I alleg... (show quote)


Put a pool in, excavating was free.

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Sep 15, 2023 15:00:03   #
DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods
 
Howard5252 wrote:
Here's the problem with allegations ...
I allege that you have 3 million dollars worth of gold buried in your back yard. If I have a big enough megaphone and following, your back yard will be a very large ditch in the morning. When you come out and deny the allegation, I simply say "Dig deeper, the gold is there". The next morning your house will be on the edge of falling into the crater that used to be your back yard.
Allegations without proof can be very harmful. My allegation didn't cost me a nickel; it'll cost you several nickels to repair the damage to your yard. Allegations without proof cost FOX news, a network with a very large megaphone and following, approximately 16 billion nickels. You may still hear about voter fraud on Fox news but THEY WON'T BE TELLING EVERYONE THAT VOTING MACHINES WERE USED.
Sometimes it's not a backyard that gets destroyed, too many times it's people. Before you start or spread unfounded allegations ..... DON'T.
Here's the problem with allegations ... br I alleg... (show quote)


What evidence against DOJ and fbi ?.. once again allegation that you take as fact

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Sep 15, 2023 15:09:50   #
mwalsh Loc: Houston
 
skylane5sp wrote:
That was just as stupid the first time you said it, Mazie.


I guess you are correct. It was not the Republicans...it was trump and his MAGAs.

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Sep 15, 2023 15:28:12   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:
I've listened to you say umpteen times" there is no verifiable" evidence against Biden. So I ask you for "VERIFIABLE" evidence that TRUMP used the IRS.

These links should be helpful in your educational process!

https://nypost.com/2022/11/14/trump-sought-to-have-political-opponents-investigated-by-irs-report/

https://people.com/politics/former-chief-staff-says-trump-wanted-irs-investigate-rivals/

https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/nation-politics/trump-asked-about-having-the-irs-investigate-fbi-officials/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/07/10/all-ways-trump-not-his-foes-sought-weaponize-government/

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/3733775-trump-requested-irs-probes-of-comey-mccabe-john-kelly-tells-nyt/

https://pascrell.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5226

https://thehill.com/business/3549408-irs-in-political-storm-over-trump-era-audits/

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-repeatedly-called-irs-justice-122912650.html

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Sep 15, 2023 15:32:54   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
DennyT wrote:
Trumps second impeaching - yes purely political.
The first not. It was justified and if senators would have done thier job ….trump would have been guilty.

In any case you have you no supporting facts . That this is nothing but revenge politics and is being done for one purpose only . To weaken a political opponent in the next election.
As far the rest of your post: .
There is is no factual evidence only allegations at best with most being nothing more than political driven conspiracy.
For example is a shell company illegals- no!
As far as an investigation. It’s has been going on since gop took control of the house with absolutely nothing to show for it .
Trumps second impeaching - yes purely political. b... (show quote)

It turns out that GOP Senator's were receiving credible threats right before January 6th, through the time of trump's second impeachment, which is likely why more GOP Senator's didn't vote to convict trump.

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Sep 15, 2023 20:41:37   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
btbg wrote:
On that we are in agreement.


Well, voting for #45 again, will only make it worse!

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Sep 15, 2023 20:46:44   #
btbg
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Well, voting for #45 again, will only make it worse!


If the choice is Biden or Trump you better believe I will vote for Trump. My life was much better under Trump.

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Sep 15, 2023 20:55:43   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
btbg wrote:
If the choice is Biden or Trump you better believe I will vote for Trump. My life was much better under Trump.


If you were honest with yourself you would admit it hasn’t changed one iota.

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