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Jul 6, 2023 16:28:03   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
dennis2146 wrote:
How can I say this so you and yours will understand?

Oh yeah, BULLSHIT!!!!! NYC still has a great many violent crimes.

Dennis


How can I say this so you can understand? BULLSHIT!!!!
NYC is the 5th safest big city in the world!!!!
That's a fact!
Idaho has potatoes.

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Jul 6, 2023 16:31:40   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Frank T wrote:
How can I say this so you can understand? BULLSHIT!!!!
NYC is the 5th safest big city in the world!!!!
That's a fact!
Idaho has potatoes.


Denise doesn't like facts, they go against her BULLSHIT thinking.

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Jul 6, 2023 16:33:50   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
letmedance wrote:
Wrong.


When I was 15 and drinking illegally in NYS my friends were going to CT to legally drink there at 18. If the drinking age in CT has changed I am not aware of it.

Dennis

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Jul 6, 2023 16:53:23   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
I have a son in the Army and he's 20. Just because he is trained to carry an automatic rifle, does not mean he has easy access to that firearm. We're talking about limiting personal gun ownership here for young people. I think gun ownership could be pushed to 21 unless you have hunter training or are a member of the military. Throw a few hurdles at the general populace, it's not going to hurt anyone. We do it with alcohol.

My original point was about blocking buying firearms on credit which might keep some younger individuals from easily arming themselves to the nines.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/17/texas-report-reveals-chilling-way-uvalde-school-shooter-salvador-ramos-amassed-weapons-on-his-18th-birthday/

The linked article that started this thread refers to the recent Philly shooter. That shooter was an older man and both his handgun and his rifle where ghost weapons. He was a felon that found a way to arm himself. They always do.

It is unfortunate that we in the US decided to serialize and track receivers instead of barrels on modular weapons. The receivers are easy to purchase "unfinished" without any kind of tracking. Then after drilling a few holes and buying the rest of the parts online you can make a gun. Barrels, on the other hand, are nearly impossible for the average citizen to fabricate.
I have a son in the Army and he's 20. Just becaus... (show quote)


My twin brother and I were buying firearms on credit, no credit card, just our good name and reputation at paying for what we buy in due time, at 15 years old in NYS.

The Army maintains control of firearms due to liability for one reason. There is no negative for your son not keeping the firearm with him all the time. When my brother and I were on a USMC rifle and pistol team we took our service rifles AND pistols, both .22 and 45 ACP to our Baracks after shooting. Some control is kept on these firearms not because of the age of the service members but because there is not much call for those rifles to be issued on an American base except when training is imminent.

Thank your son for his service. I wish him the very best of luck.

It has ALWAYS been legal for Americans to build their own firearms. The newer use of so called ghost guns has changed nothing. I have a number of rifles, pistols and shotguns that are registered nowhere. What difference does the serial number mean to anybody? Many if not most firearms in America are not registered. IF a firearm is used in a crime and is recovered the DOJ is able to check the serial number from the factory and follow it as far as it goes. IF it has been sold through a FFL dealer then it would lead to that dealer who can then check his records for who the gun was last sold to. But if that owner has since sold the firearm and then that buyer resold it then there is no knowing who last owned it. Is that a problem for you? Why? Most firearms really are sold to honest law abiding citizens. You know of course only a small percentage of firearms are used in any type of crime don't you?

You are correct in that felons/criminals will always find a way to be armed. No matter what laws are passed, no matter if the gun is a ghost gun they will find a way to have a weapon. Many firearms are stolen and then used by criminals to commit crimes. Some police officers have had their firearms stolen. A few military armories have been broken into with machine guns and other firearms stolen. This is what criminals do.

Dennis

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Jul 6, 2023 17:34:13   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
dennis2146 wrote:
When I was 15 and drinking illegally in NYS my friends were going to CT to legally drink there at 18. If the drinking age in CT has changed I am not aware of it.

Dennis


The drinking age all over the country is 21.
Your memory is also wrong. The drinking age in CT was 21, it was 18 in New York.
Guess you killed too many brain cells with cheap boos.

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Jul 6, 2023 17:36:08   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
Frank T wrote:
The drinking age all over the country is 21.
Your memory is also wrong. The drinking age in CT was 21, it was 18 in New York.
Guess you killed too many brain cells with cheap boos.


Denise drank too much of that bathtub gin.

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Jul 6, 2023 17:53:32   #
skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA
 
InfiniteISO wrote:
I have a son in the Army and he's 20. Just because he is trained to carry an automatic rifle, does not mean he has easy access to that firearm. We're talking about limiting personal gun ownership here for young people. I think gun ownership could be pushed to 21 unless you have hunter training or are a member of the military. Throw a few hurdles at the general populace, it's not going to hurt anyone. We do it with alcohol.

My original point was about blocking buying firearms on credit which might keep some younger individuals from easily arming themselves to the nines.

https://nypost.com/2022/07/17/texas-report-reveals-chilling-way-uvalde-school-shooter-salvador-ramos-amassed-weapons-on-his-18th-birthday/

The linked article that started this thread refers to the recent Philly shooter. That shooter was an older man and both his handgun and his rifle where ghost weapons. He was a felon that found a way to arm himself. They always do.

It is unfortunate that we in the US decided to serialize and track receivers instead of barrels on modular weapons. The receivers are easy to purchase "unfinished" without any kind of tracking. Then after drilling a few holes and buying the rest of the parts online you can make a gun. Barrels, on the other hand, are nearly impossible for the average citizen to fabricate.
I have a son in the Army and he's 20. Just becaus... (show quote)

It’s a bit more than “drilling a few holes”…

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Jul 6, 2023 19:21:52   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Most shootings in all of our Cities are committed by career felons. Many of them are out on bail for other shootings. The Courts have been failing this Country for 60 years.We don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem.

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Jul 6, 2023 20:22:42   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
pbearperry wrote:
Most shootings in all of our Cities are committed by career felons. Many of them are out on bail for other shootings. The Courts have been failing this Country for 60 years.We don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem.


That's not accurate.

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Jul 7, 2023 07:36:17   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
JohnFrim wrote:
Truth. It came from Truth Seeker, so it MUST be true.


Look up sarcastically in the dictionary

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Jul 7, 2023 08:34:06   #
pbearperry Loc: Massachusetts
 
Frank T wrote:
That's not accurate.


Sorry, but it is accurate.Most of the shootings in Massachusetts where I live are committed by repeat offenders.don't forget Mass shootings are based on 3 or more people shot at one time.They are usually gang related.

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Jul 7, 2023 08:38:41   #
aphelps Loc: Central Ohio
 
Frank T wrote:
Dennis
NYC has very restrictive gun laws and is the safest big city in America.
Proving that you are wrong.


NYC is certainly not the safest big city in America.

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Jul 7, 2023 08:42:45   #
Truth Seeker Loc: High Mountains of the Western US
 
pbearperry wrote:
Most shootings in all of our Cities are committed by career felons. Many of them are out on bail for other shootings. The Courts have been failing this Country for 60 years.We don't have a gun problem, we have a criminal problem.



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Jul 7, 2023 09:21:55   #
Frank T Loc: New York, NY
 
aphelps wrote:
NYC is certainly not the safest big city in America.


You are mistaken. Not only is it the safest big city in America but it's the 5th safest big city in the world, just behind Paris France.

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Jul 7, 2023 09:46:33   #
JohnFrim Loc: Somewhere in the Great White North.
 
I’ve said it before in different ways, but…

IF guns are NOT the problem, and you claim it is PEOPLE who are the problem, then I have to conclude that THE AMERICAN ATTITUDE must be the problem.

Fortunately, most Americans are not afflicted with this condition. Symptoms are a misinterpretation of the 2nd Amendment, and the belief that tighter restrictions on firearms signal the end of ALL FREEDOMS in America.

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