image or digital art? (Page 16): I never said 'end of discussion'. I said, 'period' after the classic definition of the word photography was given, and it is a Greek word by the way.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

gwilliams6 wrote:

As I said, everyone deserves to be heard on this, including you and everyone else. No one of us has the final definitive answer on this so your "end of discussion" is very presumptuous at the least. That is my point. And most of us do know what the word "photography" means from its Latin language origin, "writing with light".

Cheers and best to you.

I never said 'end of discussion'. I said, 'period' after the classic definition of the word photography was given, and it is a Greek word by the way. Perhaps you are not able to contribute any new information but criticism to the way others put things because you have been firmly rooted in your fortress of personal knowledge too long.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Fotoartist wrote:

I never said 'end of discussion'. I said, 'period' after the classic definition of the word photography was given, and it is a Greek word by the way. Perhaps you are not able to contribute any new information but criticism to the way others put things because you have been firmly rooted in your fortress of personal knowledge too long.

gwilliams6

Fotoartist wrote:

I never said 'end of discussion'. I said, 'period' after the classic definition of the word photography was given, and it is a Greek word by the way. Perhaps you are not able to contribute any new information but criticism to the way others put things because you have been firmly rooted in your fortress of personal knowledge too long.

You are right Greek. I studied both Latin and Greek in prep school long ago, and they are the foundations and origins of so much of our modern words and language, and I get them mixed up at times. I stand corrected.

From Merriam's: " The word Photography literally means 'drawing with light', which derives from the Greek photo, meaning light and graph, meaning to draw."

We appreciate your opinions as well as those of everyone. Not sure where your discussion of 3D comes into this discussion though, but always nice to learn something new anyway .

Cheers and best to you.

sprucemesa Loc: Dallas, Texas

CHG_CANON wrote:

No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.

Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona

This has been a fun and overall civil post. But I'm leaving now

mallen1330 Loc: Chicago western suburbs

When non-digital art fights back at the sight of digital image capturing highly processed and manipulated by today's high-end smart phone technology, verses my highly manipulated composite. Which is the image? Which is art?

niteman3d Loc: South Central Pennsylvania, USA

Reality ain't what it used to be, but then it never was, was it? The genie escaped the bottle when nobody was looking and now it's way too late to do anything about it. There's money to be made and fortunes to be destroyed... no stopping it now. Good names turning bad and bad names turning good. It all depends on where you're standing when you view it, whatever it is... artistic rendering?

Artcameraman Loc: Springfield NH

Buy a piano and you own a piano, buy a camera and you're a photographer.( Not my quote).

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

Sidwalkastronomy wrote:

And just who are we admitting it to and for what reason.
This whole thread and having to fess up if the photo was manipulated is ridiculous

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Sidwalkastronomy wrote:

And just who are we admitting it to and for what reason.
This whole thread and having to fess up if the photo was manipulated is ridiculous

I react to an image for how I see it. The final product.
I don't concern myself with what (and to what extent) editor, what camera, what lens, .....

Just the resultant image.

sodapop Loc: Bel Air, MD

Longshadow wrote:

I react to an image for how I see it. The final product.
I don't concern myself with what (and to what extent) editor, what camera, what lens, .....

Just the resultant image.

And that is the way it should be!!

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

sodapop wrote:

And that is the way it should be!!

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

Sidwalkastronomy wrote:

And just who are we admitting it to and for what reason.
This whole thread and having to fess up if the photo was manipulated is ridiculous

Exactly.
However, those that think pictures need identified as manipulated or not manipulated should just assume the picture was manipulated via post editing.

To me, I assume all good pictures are edited in post and if it took a lot of work and skill, the editor would gladly BRAG about it, not HIDE it, particularly if asked. Those that think a person would apply years of skill to create a work of art and then pretend he didn't do anything to improve on what the camera gave him is mistaken and my guess is they don't have a clue how to edit a photo.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

If we weren't supposed to edit, they wouldn't make editors.

BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA

Longshadow wrote:

So I suppose everyone will argue their <differing> opinions ad infinitum.......

Yes, or until they lose interest, whichever comes first.

Well, the exception I reckon is the page counters that have no further interest other than complaining how many pages of interest there are... yet, they continue to post their complaints...

My simple recommendation to them is to not follow a thread that you have no interest in, or lost interest in.

Like Yogi says "No one goes there nowadays, it’s too crowded."