image or digital art?
May 16, 2023 16:38:34 #
A question for the group.
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
May 16, 2023 16:42:26 #
BobSchwabk wrote:
A question for the group.
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
Cheaters will cheat and feel proud of themselves. Artists and honest photogs will feel something else.
May 16, 2023 16:57:17 #
BobSchwabk wrote:
A question for the group.
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?
So long as the photographer/artist reveals what was done to achieve the results, I think it's fine. Competitions should just update their entry rules to accommodate or restrict entries according to the preferences of the sponsoring body.
May 16, 2023 16:59:10 #
fantom wrote:
Cheaters will cheat and feel proud of themselves. Artists and honest photogs will feel something else.
It is only cheating if the creator misrepresents something as personal work, without indicating a particular process used to assist.
May 16, 2023 17:00:51 #
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.
May 16, 2023 17:12:04 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.
Communicators convey messages as best they can. Audiences "receive and process" them at their own risk, with their own personal interpretive biases, prejudices, and misconceptions. Sometimes a "common thought is held in union," sometimes not!
May 16, 2023 17:32:05 #
burkphoto wrote:
It is only cheating if the creator misrepresents something as personal work, without indicating a particular process used to assist.
I believe that was implied in the OP's post, but...
May 16, 2023 17:50:45 #
burkphoto wrote:
It is only cheating if the creator misrepresents something as personal work, without indicating a particular process used to assist.
That happens a lot.
Fake skies added without saying that they are fake is very common.
Yes, there can be editing to preserve the photo like removing some pole or line but nothing was added that was never there.
But with editing so easy, I look at most:Amazing" photos with skepticism now figuring the sky or other amazing element was most likely added to make a composite rather than a single shot.
May 16, 2023 18:16:53 #
I think it also has to do with the type of photography. Adding, removing, changing is not as acceptable in documentary or environmental photography as it may be in other types of photography.
May 16, 2023 18:21:03 #
Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes. Art is knowing which images to PhotoShop.
May 16, 2023 18:28:32 #
burkphoto wrote:
It is only cheating if the creator misrepresents something as personal work, without indicating a particular process used to assist.
Don
May 16, 2023 20:29:52 #
The way I look at it, anything we see on the internet is a digital image. If I take a picture of a painting and post it on the net it is a digital image. If I make no comments folks will decide if they like what they see or not. If I post information about the image it should be credible.
I see pictures here that make me go BLAH, that get page after page pf praise. Some pictures that I really like fade away before the day is up. Like Bill Murray said, it just doesn't matter.
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I see pictures here that make me go BLAH, that get page after page pf praise. Some pictures that I really like fade away before the day is up. Like Bill Murray said, it just doesn't matter.
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May 16, 2023 21:30:16 #
An image is an image regardless of what you choose to call it. SOOC images are very often mediocre whereas edited images are often closer to the photographer's vision of what he/she wanted to capture, and in most cases the editing makes for a more visually engaging image.
Shooting circumstances are often less than ideal and photos can very often be improved on by making them more like what they would have been like if they had been shot in better (or ideal) circumstances.
Reality can also be a bit limiting and as a result, photos can often be improved on by adding stuff that wasn't actually there. In fact if it's an image that you're after, why have a photo as your starting point - why not create it from scratch? It all comes down to what you want and what reality provides.
If a photographer claims that a doctored or created image is something it isn't, that's between him/her and their own conscience, but in a competition, that would be considered as cheating.
Shooting circumstances are often less than ideal and photos can very often be improved on by making them more like what they would have been like if they had been shot in better (or ideal) circumstances.
Reality can also be a bit limiting and as a result, photos can often be improved on by adding stuff that wasn't actually there. In fact if it's an image that you're after, why have a photo as your starting point - why not create it from scratch? It all comes down to what you want and what reality provides.
If a photographer claims that a doctored or created image is something it isn't, that's between him/her and their own conscience, but in a competition, that would be considered as cheating.
May 16, 2023 21:39:03 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.
May 16, 2023 21:42:26 #
Realists v. idealist.
Rules for the competition will separate them,
or give them equal rights.
Rules for the competition will separate them,
or give them equal rights.
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