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May 16, 2023 21:57:36   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
A real photographer like Ansel Adams hiked all the way into those mountains and took one perfect shot and hiked home to glory.

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May 16, 2023 22:02:53   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
A real photographer like Ansel Adams hiked all the way into those mountains and took one perfect shot and hiked home to glory.

Uphill both ways.

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May 16, 2023 22:05:25   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
BobSchwabk wrote:
A question for the group.
As I look at on-line posts of images, I see some that obviously been created by adding features that weren’t in the original capture. But with the advent of AI it’s getting harder. With all the editing software out there, many adding features for enhancing an image, I’m curious as to your opinions as to when an image transitions from a photo into the realm of “digital art”. What will be the impact on competitions?


Many lines are already blurred. More are getting blurred each day. Some have been erased.

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May 16, 2023 22:05:36   #
Retired CPO Loc: Travel full time in an RV
 
At some point you have to decide whether you are a photographer or a computer graphics technician.

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May 16, 2023 22:14:48   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Beauty is everywhere when you have PhotoShop.

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May 17, 2023 04:44:52   #
L-Fox
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.



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May 17, 2023 05:35:40   #
Tjohn Loc: Inverness, FL formerly Arivaca, AZ
 
burkphoto wrote:
So long as the photographer/artist reveals what was done to achieve the results, I think it's fine. Competitions should just update their entry rules to accommodate or restrict entries according to the preferences of the sponsoring body.


Amen.

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May 17, 2023 06:05:37   #
ELNikkor
 
In the film days, I spent hours on a balcony overlooking Biscayne Bay, waiting for a plane, queueing to land at Miami International, to go through a rising full moon. One fine evening it happened! With my FM2 loaded with Ektar 125, shutter speed 1/125, 1000mm Nikkor Reflex, I anticipated the 727 approaching, clicked just before, and saw the plane just after the swish-clunk of the mirror. "I think I got it!" I whispered, to no one there. Weeks later, when I finished the roll and had it processed, sure enough, the jet was almost half-way through the moon, the jet-trails clearly showing! I printed it myself, and, much later, photographed the print with my D5100 so I could share it on-line with some friends. Wouldn't you know, one of them dismissed it with, "Photoshop"...

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May 17, 2023 07:07:11   #
Peterfiore Loc: Where DR goes south
 
fantom wrote:
Cheaters will cheat and feel proud of themselves. Artists and honest photogs will feel something else.


Cheaters? That is an interesting way of defining a new tool. Artists will and have always adopted whatever device to create their work. The only rules in art are the ones that are intelligently broken.

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May 17, 2023 07:08:43   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
When you follow the rules, you are a photographer, when you break the rules you are an artist.

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May 17, 2023 07:28:38   #
jlg1000 Loc: Uruguay / South America
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
No artist ever sees things only as the camera would. If he did, he would cease to be an artist.


Agreed.

And don't forget that AI doesn't have mirrors...

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May 17, 2023 07:45:00   #
wmurnahan Loc: Bloomington IN
 
In my opinion, once you do anything more than adjust exposure and start placing elements not there, it is not a photograph it is an image. Difference between capturing and creating.

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May 17, 2023 07:46:58   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
wmurnahan wrote:
In my opinion, once you do anything more than adjust exposure and start placing elements not there, it is not a photograph it is an image. Difference between capturing and creating.



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May 17, 2023 07:49:00   #
old poet
 
burkphoto wrote:
So long as the photographer/artist reveals what was done to achieve the results, I think it's fine. Competitions should just update their entry rules to accommodate or restrict entries according to the preferences of the sponsoring body.



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May 17, 2023 07:49:15   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Real Photographers use Polaroid.

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