RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

It is an altered image using AI of the Pieta and should be labeled as such.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Because honesty matters. When I look at your bird posts, I sincerely trust that it is you that was behind the camera when the image was captured. I understand that you may have made adjustments in post processing, but the image that is being post processed is yours. And you are not showing us something ordered up from an AI image catalogue.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

That's a foxy remark CANONesop!

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Yes, it is your business even if you are lying only to yourself.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

Wouldn't you thinking he is lying to himself be your construct?
He's not "lying to himself" because he knows exactly what he did.

RodeoMan Loc: St Joseph, Missouri

Interesting C.J. When we discuss "Master photographers, that we know who they are, what are the criteria that determines that a particular image is the product of a master. How do we know we are looking at a work of a master. Does the market tell us that? I can see images selling for large amounts that frankly leave me cold. Or I can also see images others would label as run of the mill that I like. Does this relate to some sort of failing in me. If there are "rules" that elevate an image into the stratsophere of being a product of a master, what are these rules and who makes them. How is the intangible quantified? I am of the different strokes by different folks school of thought. You can like what you like and consider it art as long as you give me the leeway to do the same. Here are three photographers whose work I enjoy: Peter Henry Emerson, Mike Disfarmer, and Roger Minick. There are many others whom I like as well. I don't know whether or not these three are masters, but I enjoy them. Who are some photographers you like and and perhaps consider masters. I think you brought up a subject, what makes a photographer a master, that would be an interesting topic on its own in this forum.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

There is no "failing" in you. Your tastes are simply different than others.
That's one reason why I never enter photo contests, I can never figure why what won, won, in 95+% of them.
Then again, wouldn't it be because of my taste in images is different?

Sidwalkastronomy Loc: New Jersey Shore

Only 15 pages???
The filter no filter thread hit over 20.

joecichjr Loc: Chicago S. Suburbs, Illinois, USA

Love them all, but the last one is really a masterpiece of portraiture 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻

gwilliams6

Your points of view on the "Image or Digital Art?" question posed by the OP are no more defining and "end of argument" than any one else's in this discussion.

And your diversion to talk about stereo 3D images is just as off topic as some other diversions here.

Everyone has a voice and should be heard. No single person has any all-encompassing answer to the question, and to the visual dilemmas we face presently and going forward .

Cheers and best to you.

gwilliams6

Thanks so much Joe.

Cheers and best to you.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

The literal definition of the word photography is 'drawing with light'. So to fit that definition images have to start with making an image on a light sensitive medium. What happens afterward in post are just refinements to the original capture. That would eliminate AI as an original generator of an image from being called photography but not Photoshop. That is my point.

And talk about diversions, photography is art. That question has already been settled in the philosophical realm. Whether it is good art or bad art, it is still art.

My topic of what is happening in stereo photography brings something new to the discussion that is relevant and pertinent regarding the question of defining photographic images regardless of your ability to grasp that. But if you want to talk about diversions your brag photos about your photojournalism career which you posted added absolutely nothing to this thread but wasted space.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

So I suppose everyone will argue their <differing> opinions ad infinitum.......

gwilliams6

As I said, everyone deserves to be heard on this, including you and everyone else. No one of us has the final definitive answer on this so your "end of discussion" is very presumptuous at the least. That is my point. And most of us do know what the word "photography" means from its Latin language origin, "writing with light".

Cheers and best to you.

gwilliams6

"As I said, everyone deserves to be heard on this, including you and everyone else. No one of us has the final definitive or the all-encompassing answer on this, so the "end of discussion" was very presumptuous at the least. That is my point. And most of us do know what the word "photography" means from its Latin language origin, "writing with light". "

And Longshadow what else is new here in UHH, we always argue or discuss our differing opinions ad infinitum.
That is what keeps UHH going, and going, and going. LOL

Cheers and best to you all.