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Dec 7, 2012 08:56:39   #
dirty dave
 
Was the Nazi party a national socialist party? That the reason when I hear socialism it scares me. If I am wrong someone please educate me.

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Dec 7, 2012 09:05:57   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
Everybody who's sane , know that less taxes mean more mony in the government coffer , cause peoples work and spend more . No work ? no mony ,no taxes ,
Crap , i just found out this is a Conservator idea , sorry libs

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Dec 7, 2012 09:38:53   #
thewags Loc: Phoenix
 
Rix and so many others seem to think that taking even more money from those who already carry the burden will somehow make things better. Hard to argue, heck I'd like someone else to pay my bills too. But I struggle over the logic. The terrible Bush tax cuts that these folks say ruined the economy actually resulted in higher revenue and lowered deficits, so I don't get the "ruined the economy" mantra. And even now if we give in to the "tax the rich" war cry, even the CBO says it will hardly make a dent in the deficit, so how we will be better off is a mystery to me. Perhaps Rix can explain.

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Dec 7, 2012 09:49:26   #
Jim Plogger Loc: East Tennessee
 
RixPix wrote:
This video narrated by Ed Asner offers an explanation to all those wondering what happened to the country they new. This was passed on to me by my childhood friend Dr. Jack Bishop a pioneer in musicology. It is very entertaining.

http://jackbishop.com/tax_the_rich.mp4


This video is certainly quite entertaining and colorful. It seems to lay the blame for the country's fiscal problems at the feet of the 1% that liberals feel do not pay enough taxes, and maybe they should pay more. But this video completely ignores the real fiscal problem and that is the 47% who pay NO taxes. Maybe if we ALL paid our fair share we would not be in this mess!

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Dec 7, 2012 09:59:51   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
Danilo wrote:
Bmac wrote:
How will I be better off? 8-)


Maybe Rix is going to mail you a check...?


That would be nice. :D

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Dec 7, 2012 10:02:00   #
DavidJon Loc: Ada, Oklahoma
 
Why is it when Obama and liberals say the word "rich", it sounds like a four-letter word? Liberals castigate the rich; not for what they've done wrong, but for what they did right. Thomas Sowell recently pointed out, the problem with Obama's creed of "Redistribution of Wealth" is that you can only confiscate the wealth that exists at a given moment. You cannot confiscate future wealth - and that future wealth is less likely to be produced when people see that it is going to be confiscated.

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Dec 7, 2012 10:03:41   #
Bmac Loc: Long Island, NY
 
thewags wrote:
Rix and so many others seem to think that taking even more money from those who already carry the burden will somehow make things better. Hard to argue, heck I'd like someone else to pay my bills too. But I struggle over the logic. The terrible Bush tax cuts that these folks say ruined the economy actually resulted in higher revenue and lowered deficits, so I don't get the "ruined the economy" mantra. And even now if we give in to the "tax the rich" war cry, even the CBO says it will hardly make a dent in the deficit, so how we will be better off is a mystery to me. Perhaps Rix can explain.
Rix and so many others seem to think that taking e... (show quote)


Please, do not overburden Rix, I am still waiting for him to explain to me how I am about to have more money in my pocket than I have had for years. 8-)

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Dec 7, 2012 10:08:12   #
RichieC Loc: Adirondacks
 
The one thing no dimocrat will EVER answer is at what percentage is too much. Where is the threshold? is it 50%, 60%, 90%???. You think Steve Jobs could get by on 1% of what his company he built is worth?

Or do you all think you should be able to look at what someone has made and decide what they get to keep to get by on and what your cut should be because you didn't make it...

The history of the world is full of examples of similar reactions. Khmer Rouge decided it was people with any sort of education that was the problem, with radical Islam it is anybody who believes in anything BUT the prophet. 'Ol Adolf had his scapegoats... Stalin his, Obama and his minions now have theirs... and yes social engineering is exactly this game is.

Anytime a majority looks at a minority and decides they have something they want and can take... either by vote or by gun, you are welcome to that world- not one I want any part of.

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Dec 7, 2012 10:34:17   #
thewags Loc: Phoenix
 
"The one thing no dimocrat will EVER answer is at what percentage is too much."

Yes, indeed. I have asked the question many many times, "What is the fair share?". I get all kinds of complaints but never an answer.

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Dec 7, 2012 10:36:22   #
FRENCHY Loc: Stone Mountain , Ga
 
RichieC wrote:
The one thing no dimocrat will EVER answer is at what percentage is too much. Where is the threshold? is it 50%, 60%, 90%???. You think Steve Jobs could get by on 1% of what his company he built is worth?

Or do you all think you should be able to look at what someone has made and decide what they get to keep to get by on and what your cut should be because you didn't make it...

The history of the world is full of examples of similar reactions. Khmer Rouge decided it was people with any sort of education that was the problem, with radical Islam it is anybody who believes in anything BUT the prophet. 'Ol Adolf had his scapegoats... Stalin his, Obama and his minions now have theirs... and yes social engineering is exactly this game is.

Anytime a majority looks at a minority and decides they have something they want and can take... either by vote or by gun, you are welcome to that world- not one I want any part of.
The one thing no dimocrat will EVER answer is at w... (show quote)


:-D :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

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Dec 7, 2012 10:37:22   #
OldBobD Loc: Ohio
 
I think that 70-some years ago Hitler was saying the same thing about the Jews. He sure found a solution; is this the solution Ed Asner is advocating?

For the 2009 tax year the top 1% paid 36.73% of total personal federal income taxes; the bottom 50% paid 2.25% (according to the National Taxpayers Union - http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html ).

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Dec 7, 2012 11:08:37   #
yhtomit Loc: Port Land. Oregon
 
RixPix wrote:
This video narrated by Ed Asner offers an explanation to all those wondering what happened to the country they new. This was passed on to me by my childhood friend Dr. Jack Bishop a pioneer in musicology. It is very entertaining.

http://jackbishop.com/tax_the_rich.mp4


Glad Dr Jackass passed this along.This absolute one sided colored lie,does not surprise me.
The Nazi's also used such tools to indoctrinate the young and impressionable.
We already know that democratics are underachieving leeches and
want to keep poor people desperate for a handout(mainly people of color).
You are always an entertaining cretin.Keep it coming pussycat.

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Dec 7, 2012 11:41:25   #
pipesgt Loc: Central Florida
 
POOR PEOPLE ARE NOT BEING TAXED ENOUGH.

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Dec 7, 2012 12:29:09   #
No1Shutterbug Loc: Greencastle, PA Live in The Villages, FL
 
From FreedomWorks website:

The flat tax is simple and would generate more economic growth than the status quo. Instead of our current multi-rate tax system, a flat tax would tax all individuals at the same rate. Under a 10 percent flat tax, someone making $100,000 annually would pay a $10,000 federal income tax. It’s a simple equation. It would not punish productive members of society with a higher tax rate.

I personally advocate the flat tax being as low as possible. Of course, any tax reform should be accompanied by significant spending cuts. The flat tax would remove special interest loopholes from the tax code and allow individuals to file their taxes within five minutes on a form the size of a postcard. It can be implemented through the normal legislative process and it has been successful in dozens of other countries. So far, the flat tax has been adopted in roughly 24 countries. There’s a flat tax revolution going on around the globe and the United States needs to jump on the bandwagon.

I can understand why the fair tax is very appealing to many limited government activists. It has various benefits similar to the flat tax, such as overhauling the current tax code and eliminating all forms of double taxation. The fair tax, however, could be dangerous. If we don’t repeal the 16th Amendment first, we could end up with both an income tax and a national sales tax. The politicians in Washington would love to have both sources of money. Several European governments have added a national sales tax on top of their federal income tax. The same trick could happen in America if we aren’t careful.

There is a better way if Washington would get their head out of their ?????

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Dec 7, 2012 12:34:47   #
thewags Loc: Phoenix
 
No1,

Fair Tax or Flat Tax is the answer but it will never fly here because it eliminates the ability of our government to engineer society through taxation. It also greatly reduces government power in general. We've seen the ultimate power of government through taxation by the Supreme Court's last decision on Obamacare. Neither party would go for that.

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