Marjorie Taylor Greene and secessionism (Page 2): I have no doubt that nothing will come of it. But yes, most red states could not fund themselves, and that means blue states wouldn't...

jcboy3

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

Well, someone (mtg) needs a reality check, because without funding to sustain a secession, that secession is doomed to fail.

That's what mtg hasn't realized, her off the wall propaganda ideas are doomed to fail when saner minds prevail.

The question needs to be asked, will those saner minds be able to regain control of the GOP before mtg burns the party and the country down?

I have no doubt that nothing will come of it. But yes, most red states could not fund themselves, and that means blue states wouldn't be stuck paying the bills.

MTG and GADS are the poster children for why people should vote Democratic.

Shutterbugsailer Loc: Staten Island NY (AKA Cincinnati by the Sea)

mwalsh wrote:

Jewish space lasers whisked it away many years ago...

You are giving them too much credit. Even the Jews can't invent something capable of locating a pea sized object from outer space

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

jcboy3 wrote:

I have no doubt that nothing will come of it. But yes, most red states could not fund themselves, and that means blue states wouldn't be stuck paying the bills.

MTG and GADS are the poster children for why people should vote Democratic.

I wish MTG would vaporize and her idea is ridiculous but your and 1948’s proposition that red states couldn’t fund themselves seems ludicrous. Take my state for instance, the person that most think has the inside track for the Democratic ticket should Joe not run took 151 billion in federal Covid relief from the feds and turned that into a 25 billion deficit a year later. Red states won’t incentivize illegal immigration by providing free medical to 2.5 million illegal residents, float ridiculous unaffordable reparations bills and deal with the cost of rampant crime to the in blue states compared to the blue states who also deal with crime. I believe the Red states would have more natural gas, minerals and oil and manufacturing. I think if you look at the cost of operating the blue states, businesses and occupants leaving blue states for more tax friendly states, economically they would do just fine.

Triple G

Effate wrote:

I wish MTG would vaporize and her idea is ridiculo... (show quote)

When red states have to pay their own way, expect taxes to go up!

https://www.newsweek.com/careful-what-you-wish-national-divorce-would-impoverish-red-states-opinion-1783150

srg

mwalsh wrote:

What's to be scared of....she is the first trans woman elected to congress...by the GOP no less!

Lol

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

Triple G wrote:

When red states have to pay their own way, expect taxes to go up!

https://www.newsweek.com/careful-what-you-wish-national-divorce-would-impoverish-red-states-opinion-1783150

I read the Newsweek article and I actually like Professor Jason Nichols. He is a very bright young man and a persuasive purveyor of all things liberal. In this article in order to demonstrate red states inability to stand on their own two feet he uses such stats as 8 of the top 10 states with the highest murder rates voted for trump which would obviously lead one to believe that the red states can’t even manage the crime rates they always complain about. We see how easy it is to skew statistics (both sides do it) to sell your position. Although what he said is statistically true one needs to drill down to illuminate the truth. Crime is a local problem managed (or not) at the local level. If we look at the cities that mostly contribute to the statewide statistics we see Jackson, Mississippi - New Orleans, La. - Louisville, Kentucky- Fairfield, Alabama - St Louis, Missouri- Dillon County/Florence, South Carolina- Gallup, New Mexico - Little Rock, Arkansas and Memphis, Tennessee all run by Democrats and 6/8 by African Americans. I’m sure other facts used in the article could be challenged as well. Although states like Mississippi may be more dependent on the federal government than some blue states they didn’t piss through 151 billion in COVID relief in one year like California because they only received 1.8 billion (.01% of what Cali got).

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

What does “ run by African Americans “ have to do with it’s opposed to European Americans
Or Asian Americans.

Not sure how the worlds continent of ancestors connects to American crime rates?

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

DennyT wrote:

What does “ run by blacks “ have to do with it,

Wow, starting to know you Denny, I knew you would pick up on that and because, I almost left it out but didn’t as a peremptory strike. You are right, in the context of the rest of my statement, it is irrelevant. My point is that they are all Democrats but since all of the cities (save for Gallup) have a large Black population I didn’t want to hear the tired racist policy argument. But in retrospect, you are right, I should have omitted that fact.

The Aardvark Is Ready

Shutterbug1697 wrote:

The other problem which mtg doesn't, or failed to address, is how are the red states going to fund their government?

The same way blue states fund their governments. Oh and BTW where are the blue states going to get their food?
https://mises.org/wire/no-red-state-economies-dont-depend-gravy-train-blue-states

Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.

The Aardvark Is Ready wrote:

The same way blue states fund their governments. Oh and BTW where are the blue states going to get their food?
https://mises.org/wire/no-red-state-economies-dont-depend-gravy-train-blue-states

Probably from the Chinese if we don’t pivot.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Effate wrote:

Wow, starting to know you Denny, I knew you would pick up on that and because, I almost left it out but didn’t as a peremptory strike. You are right, in the context of the rest of my statement, it is irrelevant. My point is that they are all Democrats but since all of the cities (save for Gallup) have a large Black population I didn’t want to hear the tired racist policy argument. But in retrospect, you are right, I should have omitted that fact.

Thanks

It is my belief that cities are predominant democratic because the inhabitants (black white yellow green) are accustom to government provided services ( fire transportation Water garbage police )and the democratic party is noted for that .
Where as Republican are predominantly rural because we are accustomed to fending for ourselves.

Then pile on top of that the history. Of past prejudiced. In housing hiring etc The blacks community lives where they get these service even though they not educated and can’t find jobs For hiring intodays world.
It all starts with jobs but business won’t go where there is an uneducated crime ridden. Work force and the cycle continues. No jobs , no. Money . No taxes for better education opps no jobs ..

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

mwalsh wrote:

What's to be scared of....she is the first trans woman elected to congress...by the GOP no less!

The really scary thing about the leader of McCarthy's Q-tard/Santos majority is that she is a ...RE-ELECTED ... Q-tard.

Re-elected by 30 scary points! What happened to RR's 'Grand Old Party' (fair dinkum, proper, real conservatives)

I never liked Ronnie or Mommie but they don't look too bad now that the booger-eaters run the show.

Drbobcameraguy Loc: Eaton Ohio

rwoodvira wrote:

“Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) touched a ner... (show quote)

She isn't the only one that needs to be sensored or removed. I believe several senators and house members along with the president need to be held accountable to the oath they took freely.

Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast

Drbobcameraguy wrote:

She isn't the only one that needs to be sensored or removed. I believe several senators and house members along with the president need to be held accountable to the oath they took freely.

We're you trying to say that mtg and others should be censured?

flip1948 Loc: Hamden, CT

Effate wrote:

I wish MTG would vaporize and her idea is ridiculo... (show quote)

If by "1948" you are referring to me you are attributing someone else's words to me. I made one response in this thread and it had nothing to do with what you are claiming.