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May 2, 2022 08:51:33   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
I have been seeing ads that state DDR5 is 50% faster than DDR4 memory. Looking at my computer specs, could someone tell me if this computer is capable of using DDR5 memory. Thanks to all who answer. I know we have some very good computer people here on the Hogg.

System Information report written at: 05/02/22 08:39:59
System Name: DESKTOP-C7LLVCC
[System Summary]

Item Value
OS Name Microsoft Windows 11 Home
Version 10.0.22000 Build 22000
Other OS Description Not Available
OS Manufacturer Microsoft Corporation
System Name DESKTOP-C7LLVCC
System Manufacturer HP
System Model HP ENVY TE01-1xxx
System Type x64-based PC
System SKU 9EE52AA#ABA
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-10700 CPU @ 2.90GHz, 2904 Mhz, 8 Core(s), 16 Logical Processor(s)
BIOS Version/Date AMI F.11, 6/4/2020
SMBIOS Version 3.2
Embedded Controller Version 88.18
BIOS Mode UEFI
BaseBoard Manufacturer HP
BaseBoard Product 8767
BaseBoard Version A (SMVB)
Platform Role Desktop
Secure Boot State On
PCR7 Configuration Elevation Required to View
Windows Directory C:\WINDOWS
System Directory C:\WINDOWS\system32
Boot Device \Device\HarddiskVolume1
Locale United States
Hardware Abstraction Layer Version = "10.0.22000.527"
User Name DESKTOP-C7LLVCC\Mike
Time Zone Eastern Daylight Time
Installed Physical Memory (RAM) 8.00 GB
Total Physical Memory 7.83 GB
Available Physical Memory 709 MB
Total Virtual Memory 29.1 GB
Available Virtual Memory 11.8 GB
Page File Space 21.3 GB
Page File C:\pagefile.sys
Kernel DMA Protection Off
Virtualization-based security Not enabled
Device Encryption Support Elevation Required to View
Hyper-V - VM Monitor Mode Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Second Level Address Translation Extensions Yes
Hyper-V - Virtualization Enabled in Firmware Yes
Hyper-V - Data Execution Protection Yes

[Hardware Resources]
[Conflicts/Sharing]

Resource Device
IRQ 16 Intel(R) Serial IO I2C Host Controller - 06E8
IRQ 16 High Definition Audio Controller

I/O Port 0x00004000-0x00004FFF Intel(R) PCI Express Root Port #6 - 06BD
I/O Port 0x00004000-0x00004FFF Realtek Gaming GbE Family Controller

Memory Address 0xB1200000-0xB12FFFFF Intel(R) PCI Express Root Port #6 - 06BD
Memory Address 0xB1200000-0xB12FFFFF Realtek Gaming GbE Family Controller

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May 2, 2022 08:59:34   #
BebuLamar
 
According to HP
https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/hp-envy-desktop-pc-te01-1000i/32480777/document/c06638240

It only supports DDR4-2933 max.

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May 2, 2022 09:03:52   #
nospambob Loc: Edmond, Oklahoma
 
Methinks you should ask HP

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May 2, 2022 09:04:03   #
Bayou
 
Going from your current 8 gigs of RAM to 16 (of the same type) would do more to improve things anyway.

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May 2, 2022 09:18:30   #
srat50 Loc: Ware, Massachusetts
 
If you have any of the Topaz Products a 8 gig Video card would do you great as well.

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May 2, 2022 09:22:51   #
BebuLamar
 
Bayou wrote:
Going from your current 8 gigs of RAM to 16 (of the same type) would do more to improve things anyway.


The OP would have to buy 16GB of RAM. 2 8GB modules as I think he had 2 4GB modules in his computer now.

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May 2, 2022 09:38:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
DDR4 only. Be sure all modules are the same speed. Matched specs is best.

If you have a conventional spinning C:\ hard drive, replacing it with a 2TB SSD of any compatible type would help.

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May 2, 2022 09:48:08   #
alexol
 
I suggest calling HP and asking, finding out what part numbers are needed. At a guess, it doesn't sound like DDR5 is either possible or needed.

Alternatively go to both Kingston's and Crucial's websites and, using their search system, punch in your computer model number and they will tell you what DRAM you can add. That's the route I would go, indeed, have gone, many times with great success.

For DDR4, you'll find that going up to 32 (instead of 16) shouldn't be that expensive and will make a big difference.

It's also worth remembering that there's little point in making enormous upgrades to one area of your system if other areas aren't appropriately matched. But adding DRAM is both easy and very effective, but probably not worth going to 64 perhaps.

DDR5 is MUCH faster, but only if your processor etc can support it, and it's a lot more expensive.

Best of luck...

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May 2, 2022 10:01:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Bayou wrote:
Going from your current 8 gigs of RAM to 16 (of the same type) would do more to improve things anyway.


Absolutely. Note that when you took this assessment, only 709 MB of your 8GB DRAM was unused, so any application you run that uses more than that small remaining amount will be constantly swapping to disk, and from a performance perspective, paging to disk is a major performance killer. Buy more DRAM!

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May 2, 2022 10:25:07   #
Indi Loc: L. I., NY, Palm Beach Cty when it's cold.
 
Going along with what others have said, I’d suggest maxing out your RAM. If you can install more than 16GB, go for it.

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May 2, 2022 10:48:37   #
alexol
 
Sad* that I have this sort of thing bookmarked, but look up your PC here: https://www.crucial.com/store/advisor and it will give you the info you need.

There's something similar over at Kingston, I think, but Crucial has always worked well for me, so that's the only brand I buy. Way back when, a Panasonic Toughbook memory upgrade was $890, vs $215 from Crucial, for the exact same chip make & model, as recommended by my Toughbook vendor.


*Sad: Yes, of course I want a life! Where do I download one and how big are they?

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May 2, 2022 21:12:27   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
alexol wrote:
Sad* that I have this sort of thing bookmarked, but look up your PC here: https://www.crucial.com/store/advisor and it will give you the info you need.

There's something similar over at Kingston, I think, but Crucial has always worked well for me, so that's the only brand I buy. Way back when, a Panasonic Toughbook memory upgrade was $890, vs $215 from Crucial, for the exact same chip make & model, as recommended by my Toughbook vendor.


*Sad: Yes, of course I want a life! Where do I download one and how big are they?
Sad* that I have this sort of thing bookmarked, bu... (show quote)


Thanks for the website for Crucial. I think I will get the 32gb kit. If you would though, look at the two I have chosen and tell me if you see something better in one than the other. When it comes to reading computer component statistics I'm lost. Thanks

#1: DDR4-2666, Extended timings - 19-19-19, PC speed 21,300, CAS latency 19 price 150.99

#2: DDR4-3200, Extended timings- 22-22-22, PC speed 25,600, CAS latency 22 price 145.99

What confuses me is it seems the faster memory costs less than the slower one. at 5.00 difference the cost is irrelevant but it just makes me question why. Thanks again.

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May 2, 2022 21:41:24   #
alexol
 
Out of my depth here - why not call them and ask? I've always had great service from them, and always (bar one notable occasion!) had quick, courteous and knowledgeable people on the phone.

And next week, I'll just write a commercial for 'em...

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May 2, 2022 21:48:55   #
Bridges Loc: Memphis, Charleston SC, now Nazareth PA
 
alexol wrote:
Out of my depth here - why not call them and ask? I've always had great service from them, and always (bar one notable occasion!) had quick, courteous and knowledgeable people on the phone.

And next week, I'll just write a commercial for 'em...


Thanks, I'll do that. And you've already written a commercial for them, just didn't get paid!

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May 2, 2022 21:49:43   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
Bridges wrote:
Thanks for the website for Crucial. I think I will get the 32gb kit. If you would though, look at the two I have chosen and tell me if you see something better in one than the other. When it comes to reading computer component statistics I'm lost. Thanks

#1: DDR4-2666, Extended timings - 19-19-19, PC speed 21,300, CAS latency 19 price 150.99

#2: DDR4-3200, Extended timings- 22-22-22, PC speed 25,600, CAS latency 22 price 145.99

What confuses me is it seems the faster memory costs less than the slower one. at 5.00 difference the cost is irrelevant but it just makes me question why. Thanks again.
Thanks for the website for Crucial. I think I wil... (show quote)


When specing any type of storage, DRAM, SSD or HD, there are two performance metrics - bandwidth (or transfer speed) and latency (or access time). Bandwidth is how fast data can be moved from (or to) the storage once the location has been accessed. Latency is how long it takes to access the data so a transfer can begin. With DRAM, the CAS latency is how many clock cycles are needed for the transfer to begin. So your first option accesses the data a little faster, but once it does, it transfers it a bit slower than #2 and vice versa, As a rule of thumb, if you have lots of frequent small transfers (small files j, go for the fastest latency, whereas if you are primarily using large transfers, go for the higher bandwidth. In your case, it’s a mix of small transfers by the OS and application and larger transfers when images are processed, so for image processing, I’d probably go for #2, but it’s not a big deal. The important thing is to add DRAM.

Now what about your disk? Are you using SSD and do you have it set as your scratch space in LR/PS or other PP application. Once you have enough DRAM, the next big performance driver is disk and that means SSD.

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