Hospital Photography
Feb 27, 2022 15:50:35 #
Burkley
Loc: Park City
My involvement with medical building artwork is varied. One hospital has no lobby art work and is very uninviting. A small rural hospital spent about 15K on art work for the hallways and lobby. A slightly larger hospital spent $25-30K on the lobby art and around $10-15 K in the hallways. A medical office building that I’m involved with spent $20-25K on artwork. It was budgeted for $50K, but the physician owners thought that was too much.
As for getting paid. As a nurse you have, by definition, already been asked to sacrifice a lot these last 2 years. At least have the hospital pick up the expenses to print and hang. The framing in our hospital has to be such that it will handle abuse and is screwed into the wall, not hung.
As for getting paid. As a nurse you have, by definition, already been asked to sacrifice a lot these last 2 years. At least have the hospital pick up the expenses to print and hang. The framing in our hospital has to be such that it will handle abuse and is screwed into the wall, not hung.
Feb 27, 2022 15:55:46 #
newsguygeorge wrote:
While this invitation is flattering and, no doubt,... (show quote)
Gosh, it sounds like I better do some research on some sort of contractual agreement. I knew it would probably be necessary. I’m been sort of relying on what little I know about copyrights. Thinking all the while that I’d always hold the key to sell more of the same and they only having the rights to the one printed image. ( that is if they actually pay me for them ) I just think it’s strange that they haven’t mentioned anything about money.
Feb 27, 2022 16:02:54 #
therwol
Loc: USA
Jklovell wrote:
I’m a nurse and a part time landscape photographer... (show quote)
I would tell them that you appreciate their offer to have your work displayed but explain that you don't possess the equipment to make large prints yourself and then present them with what it would cost to have someone make the prints for you/them. See how they handle it. Framing is a separate matter, and you can get estimates on that too, even if you do the work yourself.
Feb 27, 2022 16:58:18 #
wrangler5
Loc: Missouri
I believe any tax deduction for items you produce yourself is limited to the out of pocket costs. You can NOT deduct the full "fair market value."
Feb 27, 2022 17:25:16 #
Jklovell wrote:
I’m a nurse and a part time landscape photographer... (show quote)
An alternative: you offer the original image at the size needed and they print in the way they want through a business, like Bay Photo, then they can print them very large (as my local hospital does). Either be clear you want a certain amount of money for the use of the original image or that you are donating the image as long as you get photo credit by the photo. I think my hospital mostly buys online stock images and some of the prints I certainly would not want my name by and since there is no name there I assume they are stock images. Some other canvas pieces are donated and he always signs his work.
Feb 27, 2022 17:44:12 #
As an employee, be careful your work is not considered "work for hire." If it is then they own all your digital images.
Feb 27, 2022 18:34:27 #
Burkley
Loc: Park City
wrangler5 wrote:
I believe any tax deduction for items you produce yourself is limited to the out of pocket costs. You can NOT deduct the full "fair market value."
I appreciate you raising the issue. I know artists who donated their work and have taken deductions for full market value. But I would certainly talk with an accountant. These individuals were successful artists, not tax specialists.
Feb 28, 2022 05:53:05 #
Feb 28, 2022 06:10:53 #
Burkley wrote:
Don’t hesitate to use a professional printing company. I’ve used Bay Photo and placed the photos on both metal and paper. Both were great and much cheaper than getting a large format printer.
I was asked to do same for a Manufacturing Company. I provided them options in a detailed proposal as to print options and sizes. I took them through Bay Photo website to show them all of the possibilities, they can see the prices so they know what is available. You certainly will not be expected to pay those costs and if they are decent and can see the extent of the work, they may offer some comp.
I did another project for a a friend, had 600 hours into shooting, selecting, editing, ordering, assembling and hanging 6’x9’ metal prints. No charge. Be aware of what you are getting into.
Get the Bayroes app on your computer to configure and order.
Feb 28, 2022 07:13:55 #
CWW
Loc: North Jersey
Perhaps someone from the hospital staff will view your post and share it with the admin folks. Otherwise I would casually mention the purchase of a new printer, that might receive a positive response. Congrats on having your photos recognized!
Feb 28, 2022 07:14:29 #
jam
Loc: Beaufort, NC
Several years ago my local hospital wanted to purchase digital images to be used the hospital. I charged them $100 per digital image and had them sign a contract that they would only use them once. You should be prepared to to give them a price. They should not expect you to to this for free. They did the framing etc. themselves.
Feb 28, 2022 07:32:27 #
rgrenaderphoto wrote:
Offer to have the prints done on metal by a Pro lab to guarantee quality. Charge them double your cost and there you go
There's your answer! Also be sure to have in writing the fact you're selling them prints to display as they wish but you retain all rights to the image.
Feb 28, 2022 07:41:50 #
Richard West
Loc: Finger Lakes Region in upstate NY
A major point nobody has brought up yet is COPYRIGHT. You need to copyright your images. Will the hospital want to use the images in promotional brochures, etc., going forward? Best to have all conditions of use spelled out ahead of time and signed by both parties. You need to consult a copyright attorney, even if you end up “donating” the prints. Don’t forget to sign them with the copyright symbol in front of your name.
Feb 28, 2022 07:46:47 #
knutte wrote:
Charge them well! Hospitals are making so much money these days. My "non-profit" hospital had board of directors approve a $12 million bonus for our CEO while he's still making $2 mil a year. All while the rest of us clinical people taking care of patients can barely afford to live. We can't hire any people because the pay is so poor compared to how expensive it is to live here in my town.
Ditto - our local "non-profit" system is the same. To complicate things, the non-profit health care system (which owns four hospitals and physician groups) OWNS a for-profit health insurance company. Of course, if you have this insurance you have to use the health care system for everything. Hard to figure out how it works financially when a non-profit owns a for-profit...
Feb 28, 2022 07:50:42 #
Since you are providing printed, framed and wall mounted work, I doubt that copyright will pose much of a problem. I doubt that they will go through the trouble of duplicating them. I think that they will call you for copies. I would however sign each one and possible put a sticker with your email or phone number on the back.
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